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True, but the content of the message could contain identifying information. This is not an easy issue to solve.

michaelmrose 6y ago
Does the fact that I can change or delete this comment mean you, or hacker news have less right to it? If I delete it are you doing anything wrong by keeping a screenshot or even sharing it? If I reveal I'm a criminal is it any different? What If it's 10 years later and I've served my sentence? Does it matter if the crime is morally wrong or even illegal where you live? What it it's personal but not criminal, say I've come out as gay or a republican or a democrat or a communist. I think we would be foolish to rely on greater privacy than is provided by terms and conditions and logically we will only acquire more favorable terms by requiring them in law. You gave a good example When you discussed being unable to delete data pertaining to your account. I think on a one to one message your recipient has a right to a record of what you actually said I don't think allowing one side to edit it after the fact facilitates honest conversations nor does it much protect the person who reveals sensitive information to do so. You can already attest to what they revealed or keep a screenshot. I think on a many to many forum like this thread that people ought to be able to control what new users see but people who already received the initial version have a right to the information imparted to them. Basically I view a message as belonging to everyone who received it and the service ought to retain it as long as one person whom it belongs to wants to keep it. I can see good reason to selectively remove content that is illegal say child or revenge porn but I feel like further restrictions ought to fall on the ethical reasoning of the receiver not technology to answer the complex moral implications.
- johnisgood 6y ago
  Just to add a bit to it or TL;DR some bits: once personal data leaves you, it becomes out of your control, we should be aware of this. The Government may even step in and whatnot, but the information is still out there.

Does the fact that I can change or delete this comment mean you, or hacker news have less right to it? If I delete it are you doing anything wrong by keeping a screenshot or even sharing it? If I reveal I'm a criminal is it any different? What If it's 10 years later and I've served my sentence? Does it matter if the crime is morally wrong or even illegal where you live? What it it's personal but not criminal, say I've come out as gay or a republican or a democrat or a communist. I think we would be foolish to rely on greater privacy than is provided by terms and conditions and logically we will only acquire more favorable terms by requiring them in law. You gave a good example When you discussed being unable to delete data pertaining to your account. I think on a one to one message your recipient has a right to a record of what you actually said I don't think allowing one side to edit it after the fact facilitates honest conversations nor does it much protect the person who reveals sensitive information to do so. You can already attest to what they revealed or keep a screenshot. I think on a many to many forum like this thread that people ought to be able to control what new users see but people who already received the initial version have a right to the information imparted to them. Basically I view a message as belonging to everyone who received it and the service ought to retain it as long as one person whom it belongs to wants to keep it. I can see good reason to selectively remove content that is illegal say child or revenge porn but I feel like further restrictions ought to fall on the ethical reasoning of the receiver not technology to answer the complex moral implications.

johnisgood 6y ago
Just to add a bit to it or TL;DR some bits: once personal data leaves you, it becomes out of your control, we should be aware of this. The Government may even step in and whatnot, but the information is still out there.