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How dare they try to verify people before allowing them to stay in a complete stranger's home.

kortilla 6y ago
It’s not showing your ID that’s invasive, it’s the fact that this is now probably stored on a bunch of different systems and handled sloppily. There is no PCI standard for IDs. Just a super sensitive document loaded with PII that they’ll dump on S3 somewhere because it’s “required for business”. Don’t worry though, if you request to have it deleted I’m sure they’ll remove the link to the S3 url from their database. :/
- Dirlewanger 6y ago
  Not Airbnb's fault, this is a failure of government and of the people for continuously voting in inept representatives.
  - pessimizer 6y ago
    It's odd that a hypothetical practice of AirBnB would be every single person's fault on the planet other than the people at AirBnB.
    - deelowe 6y ago
      Are we still talking about factual comment of them requiring IDs or the completely unfounded speculation of them using it for all manner of things beyond regulatory compliance? The former is a fairly defensible position. PCI standards for this sort of data collection should be a government matter as they are the ones requiring this information to begin with. The latter isn't based on reality and not worth arguing about.
      - kortilla 6y ago
        > government matter as they are the ones requiring this information to begin with. Source? I’m able to book hotels online without sending a picture of my ID.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  > it’s the fact that this is now *probably* stored on a bunch of different systems and handled sloppily. It is not logical to both present something as FACT and then also admit it is speculation.
  - kortilla 6y ago
    Probabilities are still facts. If I flip a coin 1000 times it will probably land on heads at least once. Thousands of huge corporations have continuously been caught up in data dumps, hacks, insider schemes, etc. Especially with data that has no liability. This case is statistically unlikely to be any different. Now if I had made this up in a world where experian, Adobe, capital one, etc didn’t happen, then I could see where you’re coming from. But I’m not, this is the world we live in and it’s rightfully why people get upset when companies suck in yet more PII.

It’s not showing your ID that’s invasive, it’s the fact that this is now probably stored on a bunch of different systems and handled sloppily. There is no PCI standard for IDs. Just a super sensitive document loaded with PII that they’ll dump on S3 somewhere because it’s “required for business”. Don’t worry though, if you request to have it deleted I’m sure they’ll remove the link to the S3 url from their database. :/

Dirlewanger 6y ago
Not Airbnb's fault, this is a failure of government and of the people for continuously voting in inept representatives.
- pessimizer 6y ago
  It's odd that a hypothetical practice of AirBnB would be every single person's fault on the planet other than the people at AirBnB.
  - deelowe 6y ago
    Are we still talking about factual comment of them requiring IDs or the completely unfounded speculation of them using it for all manner of things beyond regulatory compliance? The former is a fairly defensible position. PCI standards for this sort of data collection should be a government matter as they are the ones requiring this information to begin with. The latter isn't based on reality and not worth arguing about.
    - kortilla 6y ago
      > government matter as they are the ones requiring this information to begin with. Source? I’m able to book hotels online without sending a picture of my ID.
koheripbal 6y ago
> it’s the fact that this is now *probably* stored on a bunch of different systems and handled sloppily. It is not logical to both present something as FACT and then also admit it is speculation.
- kortilla 6y ago
  Probabilities are still facts. If I flip a coin 1000 times it will probably land on heads at least once. Thousands of huge corporations have continuously been caught up in data dumps, hacks, insider schemes, etc. Especially with data that has no liability. This case is statistically unlikely to be any different. Now if I had made this up in a world where experian, Adobe, capital one, etc didn’t happen, then I could see where you’re coming from. But I’m not, this is the world we live in and it’s rightfully why people get upset when companies suck in yet more PII.