I hear you, I'm not sure how useful this is as a comparison though; plenty of things are fine and dandy if you're upfront that you're doing it and gain agreemen

I hear you, I'm not sure how useful this is as a comparison though; plenty of things are fine and dandy if you're upfront that you're doing it and gain agreement from the other party, and illegal if you conceal that you're doing and don't get agreement.