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I'm kind of intrigued by the opposite idea: extend the system of tips to everything. I'd gladly add a tip to many things I buy if I knew that it would go entire

I'm kind of intrigued by the opposite idea: extend the system of tips to everything. I'd gladly add a tip to many things I buy if I knew that it would go entirely to the workers and not one penny would go to the owners, managers, or executives. Tips are a kind of direct income redistribution. If I think someone deserves more money, I can directly give it to them. There's no middleman, no politics, and no stigma about charity.

siquick 6y ago
This should never ever be a thing. Buyers already pay enough tax as it is without another stealth tax that employers can take advantage of.
- xirbeosbwo1234 6y ago
  It's something I wish I could do. It's not a system I would know how to implement. I certainly agree that the existing system of tipping doesn't work very well.
  - siquick 6y ago
    We don't have tipping in Australia but in most cafes, restaurants and bars you can expect good service. A better thing to fix would be to improve people's general happiness by paying them a dependable wage and giving them good health care - you'll probably find they are happier at work and better at their job.
endisneigh 6y ago
My understanding is if what you proposed happened it would be regressive as less money would go into unemployment due to the substantially reduced payroll taxes collected.
michaelmrose 6y ago
People are by and large terrible. They are stupid, incompetent, their own worst enemy, rude, degenerates. They expect to behave like assholes and expect customer service to kiss their asses. Furthermore they are regularly in a semi adversarial relationship with staff because empowerment to help out creates the power to give customers things that may contextually make sense situationally one off but be profit destroying if used broadly. This means that I can corruptly earn more by giving away the store for example. You may be nice and courtesious but making everyone in every case dependent upon assholes for their daily bread will work only if you can reform the human race first.

siquick 6y ago

This should never ever be a thing. Buyers already pay enough tax as it is without another stealth tax that employers can take advantage of.

xirbeosbwo1234 6y ago
It's something I wish I could do. It's not a system I would know how to implement. I certainly agree that the existing system of tipping doesn't work very well.
- siquick 6y ago
  We don't have tipping in Australia but in most cafes, restaurants and bars you can expect good service. A better thing to fix would be to improve people's general happiness by paying them a dependable wage and giving them good health care - you'll probably find they are happier at work and better at their job.

endisneigh 6y ago

My understanding is if what you proposed happened it would be regressive as less money would go into unemployment due to the substantially reduced payroll taxes collected.

michaelmrose 6y ago

People are by and large terrible. They are stupid, incompetent, their own worst enemy, rude, degenerates. They expect to behave like assholes and expect customer service to kiss their asses. Furthermore they are regularly in a semi adversarial relationship with staff because empowerment to help out creates the power to give customers things that may contextually make sense situationally one off but be profit destroying if used broadly. This means that I can corruptly earn more by giving away the store for example. You may be nice and courtesious but making everyone in every case dependent upon assholes for their daily bread will work only if you can reform the human race first.