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So, do you rate GW Bush better or worse than Trump? Why wasn’t the left all in a lather about killing 100s of thousands of innocent Iraquis based on false evid

by cudgy 6y ago

So, do you rate GW Bush better or worse than Trump? Why wasn’t the left all in a lather about killing 100s of thousands of innocent Iraquis based on false evidence of Chemical weapons stockpiles? Why not impeach Bush then? Why not now?

mikepurvis 6y ago
If nothing else, Bush already served two terms.
- cudgy 6y ago
  That makes it even more exasperating. He was elected into office twice and caused immensely more damage.
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
    About 20k service members and ngo staff died in service under Bush.[] How many are dead due to Trump's refusal to address covid19? Hundreds of thousands of civilians. [] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/04/24/george-w-bushs-presidency-in-24-charts/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/04/24/georg...
    - jimmygrapes 6y ago
      I hate to comment but I am quite sick of seeing this "refusal to deal with covid" type rhetoric. On what are you basing that accusation, because actual reality doesn't bear it out.
      - mikepurvis 6y ago
        Refused for months to endorse basic measures like mask wearing, undermined his own doctors, gave political cover to people protesting lockdowns (the "LIBERATE" tweets, among many others), repeatedly pretended that it was just a flu and would go away on its own, repeatedly and unnecessarily politicized the whole thing by using racially charged language ("kung flu", "China flu", etc), gave guidance and timelines that were based on his own hopes and political ambitions rather than the advice of experts, treated press briefings like a reality show, using them to speculate about miracle cures rather than platforming people who knew what they were talking about. Never mind the absolute fiasco around supply stockpiles and the management of testing, most of which ended up dumped onto governors even after splashy announcements gave the impression that a national strategy was coming. So yeah, reality absolutely bears out that the Trump administration's handling of covid was a complete fiasco, and that many, many fewer people could have died if it were done better. But somehow this is all no big deal to the political movement that once lost its mind over Obama's so-called "death panels."
      - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
        The reality you occupy may not bear it out. Anyways: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccinat... As one example of, ? Thousands?
KozmoNau7 6y ago
The left was up in arms and protesting the invasion and war, it was the DNC that refused to act, choosing instead to sit on their hands. The democratic party is still in the pocket of big business. Don't confuse them with actual leftists.

by cudgy 6y ago

mikepurvis 6y ago

If nothing else, Bush already served two terms.

cudgy 6y ago
That makes it even more exasperating. He was elected into office twice and caused immensely more damage.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
  About 20k service members and ngo staff died in service under Bush.[] How many are dead due to Trump's refusal to address covid19? Hundreds of thousands of civilians. [] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/04/24/george-w-bushs-presidency-in-24-charts/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/04/24/georg...
  - jimmygrapes 6y ago
    I hate to comment but I am quite sick of seeing this "refusal to deal with covid" type rhetoric. On what are you basing that accusation, because actual reality doesn't bear it out.
    - mikepurvis 6y ago
      Refused for months to endorse basic measures like mask wearing, undermined his own doctors, gave political cover to people protesting lockdowns (the "LIBERATE" tweets, among many others), repeatedly pretended that it was just a flu and would go away on its own, repeatedly and unnecessarily politicized the whole thing by using racially charged language ("kung flu", "China flu", etc), gave guidance and timelines that were based on his own hopes and political ambitions rather than the advice of experts, treated press briefings like a reality show, using them to speculate about miracle cures rather than platforming people who knew what they were talking about. Never mind the absolute fiasco around supply stockpiles and the management of testing, most of which ended up dumped onto governors even after splashy announcements gave the impression that a national strategy was coming. So yeah, reality absolutely bears out that the Trump administration's handling of covid was a complete fiasco, and that many, many fewer people could have died if it were done better. But somehow this is all no big deal to the political movement that once lost its mind over Obama's so-called "death panels."
    - Red_Leaves_Flyy 6y ago
      The reality you occupy may not bear it out. Anyways: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccinat... As one example of, ? Thousands?

KozmoNau7 6y ago

The left was up in arms and protesting the invasion and war, it was the DNC that refused to act, choosing instead to sit on their hands. The democratic party is still in the pocket of big business. Don't confuse them with actual leftists.