3 ms·

Melania Trump wore a $39 jacket saying "I don't care really care", as she was getting on a plane to visit a children's shelter in a border town in Texas where m

by cozuya 6y ago

Melania Trump wore a $39 jacket saying "I don't care really care", as she was getting on a plane to visit a children's shelter in a border town in Texas where many children were separated from their parents. What's the Occam's Razor of why she did that, do you think?

Moodles 6y ago
Melania Trump — like all the first ladies — spent a great deal of time doing charity work for kids and so on. Most of the time, nobody paid any attention to her clothes. One time, she wears a jacket, and explains why she's wearing it: "to show the media I don't care what they think.". This day, just like the many other days, she is also doing some charity work (she didn't even wear it while with the kids, by the way). So use Occam's razor yourself: is she doing it to send a secret message that shat she doesn't care about the kids? What on Earth would be her motivation for doing that? To help win votes from people that hate children? If she hates kids, why would she bother getting on a plane in the first place? Or, is it more likely she's doing it for the reasons she literally said? Does she really hate kids? Or, does the media hate her? What's more likely? Use Occam's razor or Hanlon's razor. Why on Earth are you quoting it being a $39 jacket? Why is that relevant? Your overly outraged, negative interpretation is just proving my point about how people are getting outraged over fashion for no good reason.
- cozuya 6y ago
  Guess I'll have to explain. The Occam's Razor for the 1st lady wearing a much cheaper jacket than she would normally be caught dead in, that says "I don't really care", while boarding a flight to do a photo op with detained (caged) children cruelly and very controversially ripped away from their parents while seeking a better life for their family is: Are you ready? She doesn't really care about those children.
  - Moodles 6y ago
    Man, I think both sides are ridiculous. I don't like myself when I get drawn into these kinds of discussions. It's obviously not going to be productive. > "Guess I'll have to explain [because you're too dumb to get it]." > "Are you ready [for the truth bomb I'm about to drop on your small mind]?" Your comments just make me want to write something equally childish like: "Yeah, but who built the cages?" These back and forth comments just have a way of sucking people in. It's just silly. You're not ready to have a good faith debate. Read back your comment. Was it ever going to convince me of anything? What was the point? I'm stepping away from this conversation.
    - cozuya 6y ago
      "Yeah but who built the cages" is a goalpost shift that signifies you "lost". The point is to dunk on you. You've been dunked. The "conversation" is over. I will give you this: in one way, you are right, I never intended to have a good faith conversation with you and that is because you are wrong.
      - indecisive_user 6y ago
        You're breaking quite a few of the posting rules with your comment here, most notably the first one - "Be Kind" [0] High quality discussion is what makes HN a unique place on the internet, so I ask that you re-read the guidelines before posting again as it benefits the community as a whole. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        cozuya 6y ago
        Melania Trump is a racist who propagated and never apologized for the "Birther" conspiracy theory that President Obama was born in Kenya. Is HN a place where users need to "Be Kind" to racists, and those who defend racists? Does enabling racism amount for high quality discussion on HN?

by cozuya 6y ago

Moodles 6y ago

Melania Trump — like all the first ladies — spent a great deal of time doing charity work for kids and so on. Most of the time, nobody paid any attention to her clothes. One time, she wears a jacket, and explains why she's wearing it: "to show the media I don't care what they think.". This day, just like the many other days, she is also doing some charity work (she didn't even wear it while with the kids, by the way). So use Occam's razor yourself: is she doing it to send a secret message that shat she doesn't care about the kids? What on Earth would be her motivation for doing that? To help win votes from people that hate children? If she hates kids, why would she bother getting on a plane in the first place? Or, is it more likely she's doing it for the reasons she literally said? Does she really hate kids? Or, does the media hate her? What's more likely? Use Occam's razor or Hanlon's razor. Why on Earth are you quoting it being a $39 jacket? Why is that relevant? Your overly outraged, negative interpretation is just proving my point about how people are getting outraged over fashion for no good reason.

cozuya 6y ago
Guess I'll have to explain. The Occam's Razor for the 1st lady wearing a much cheaper jacket than she would normally be caught dead in, that says "I don't really care", while boarding a flight to do a photo op with detained (caged) children cruelly and very controversially ripped away from their parents while seeking a better life for their family is: Are you ready? She doesn't really care about those children.
- Moodles 6y ago
  Man, I think both sides are ridiculous. I don't like myself when I get drawn into these kinds of discussions. It's obviously not going to be productive. > "Guess I'll have to explain [because you're too dumb to get it]." > "Are you ready [for the truth bomb I'm about to drop on your small mind]?" Your comments just make me want to write something equally childish like: "Yeah, but who built the cages?" These back and forth comments just have a way of sucking people in. It's just silly. You're not ready to have a good faith debate. Read back your comment. Was it ever going to convince me of anything? What was the point? I'm stepping away from this conversation.
  - cozuya 6y ago
    "Yeah but who built the cages" is a goalpost shift that signifies you "lost". The point is to dunk on you. You've been dunked. The "conversation" is over. I will give you this: in one way, you are right, I never intended to have a good faith conversation with you and that is because you are wrong.
    - indecisive_user 6y ago
      You're breaking quite a few of the posting rules with your comment here, most notably the first one - "Be Kind" [0] High quality discussion is what makes HN a unique place on the internet, so I ask that you re-read the guidelines before posting again as it benefits the community as a whole. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - cozuya 6y ago
        Melania Trump is a racist who propagated and never apologized for the "Birther" conspiracy theory that President Obama was born in Kenya. Is HN a place where users need to "Be Kind" to racists, and those who defend racists? Does enabling racism amount for high quality discussion on HN?