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I only know about the whole Tan Suit thing because Reddit keeps mentioning how big of a deal it was. They will never let it go. I could counter with "Two Scoop

I only know about the whole Tan Suit thing because Reddit keeps mentioning how big of a deal it was. They will never let it go. I could counter with "Two Scoops" and Donald Trump feeding Koi incorrectly but I would be rebuffed with example of Republicans getting upset about Barrack Obama's choice of mustard.

Moodles 6y ago
Right, so now the outrage is about the other side's outrage? Ironically, they probably talk about the tan suit more now? And I don't know, how can you have it both ways? If you make fun of Trump's hair or his wife's coat, then isn't it exactly the same?
- BitwiseFool 6y ago
  I think you're exactly right. Outrage begets outrage. If you're trying to look at this as an outside observer, what each side is doing looks exactly the same. Mutually assured pettiness and hypocrisy.
  - Moodles 6y ago
    Maybe it's my social bubble of working in tech and so on, but it seems like the left dominate the outrage more these days. Certainly social media and mainstream media is heavily left-leaning. It's obvious to me which side you have to be careful about saying you support at work. It's obvious which side will attract more downvotes on Reddit and even Hacker News. Perhaps that'll change now that Biden is in the White House, though I doubt it.
    - BitwiseFool 6y ago
      Given that your comment has been downvoted and grayed, your observation seems to have been confirmed. My hunch is that 'the left' is much more involved in activism and that translates to being more vocal in online forums and more liberal in giving out downvotes.
      - Moodles 6y ago
        Haha of course. I don't have any experience being a democrat in, say, Wyoming, so I'm not entirely sure if my observation is correct. But I would genuinely feel like my career is in jeopardy if I wore a MAGA hat to the tech office. I can't imagine the vice versa scenario being equally widespread in right-wing communities. So even though I live in more leftist circles, it does feel like the outrage is more intense in general. I understand there are two sides so our natural inclination is to say "both sides are equally bad!" like disciplining children or something. But sometimes one side is a little worse than the other at a particular moment in history. I don't think it makes me a partisan to point some things out.
8note 6y ago
Are those the things the left or the media got unhappy about trump for though? Or was it the children in cages? "Covid will be gone in a few days" ? And the like? The one where he was very proud that he could identify an elephant annnnd that proved he was a very stable genius? I don't know what the two scoops or the koi thing are, but i do know the republican media has been pretending Biden is senile for a while now.
- Moodles 6y ago
  You sound quite partisan to be honest, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. It is true that Trump's (or anyone's) opponents are allowed to be outraged over serious things. But you literally just pointed out at the left also got outraged by trivial things: > The one where he was very proud that he could identify an elephant annnnd that proved he was a very stable genius? Trump boasted about a quiz, who cares? It's not important. But it was in the news cycle. Honestly, I think the left really despited the way Trump talked and phased things more than anything else. If he spoke more mellifluously like Obama, but did even more drone strikes in Yemon, CNN wouldn't go after him as much. Another example is "China virus". You know, like MERS (Middle East Respatory Syndrome), Spanish Flu, Japense encephalitis, German Measels, Zika, Ebola, etc.? All named after where they came from. He only called it the Chinese virus in response to a question from a reporter who said that the Chinese government claimed the US government made it in a lab. But of course, Trump must have said it because he's a racist and wants to blame Chinese Americans. It's just so silly and manufactured outrage. I can think of a few other examples of overblown outraged just off the top of my head. I think the media just generally cried wolf a lot. Every time Trump sneezed it was a scandal. So then people either tuned out entirely, or got outraged by Trump every day. And thus here we are with are divided country.

Moodles 6y ago

Right, so now the outrage is about the other side's outrage? Ironically, they probably talk about the tan suit more now? And I don't know, how can you have it both ways? If you make fun of Trump's hair or his wife's coat, then isn't it exactly the same?

BitwiseFool 6y ago
I think you're exactly right. Outrage begets outrage. If you're trying to look at this as an outside observer, what each side is doing looks exactly the same. Mutually assured pettiness and hypocrisy.
- Moodles 6y ago
  Maybe it's my social bubble of working in tech and so on, but it seems like the left dominate the outrage more these days. Certainly social media and mainstream media is heavily left-leaning. It's obvious to me which side you have to be careful about saying you support at work. It's obvious which side will attract more downvotes on Reddit and even Hacker News. Perhaps that'll change now that Biden is in the White House, though I doubt it.
  - BitwiseFool 6y ago
    Given that your comment has been downvoted and grayed, your observation seems to have been confirmed. My hunch is that 'the left' is much more involved in activism and that translates to being more vocal in online forums and more liberal in giving out downvotes.
    - Moodles 6y ago
      Haha of course. I don't have any experience being a democrat in, say, Wyoming, so I'm not entirely sure if my observation is correct. But I would genuinely feel like my career is in jeopardy if I wore a MAGA hat to the tech office. I can't imagine the vice versa scenario being equally widespread in right-wing communities. So even though I live in more leftist circles, it does feel like the outrage is more intense in general. I understand there are two sides so our natural inclination is to say "both sides are equally bad!" like disciplining children or something. But sometimes one side is a little worse than the other at a particular moment in history. I don't think it makes me a partisan to point some things out.

8note 6y ago

Are those the things the left or the media got unhappy about trump for though? Or was it the children in cages? "Covid will be gone in a few days" ? And the like? The one where he was very proud that he could identify an elephant annnnd that proved he was a very stable genius? I don't know what the two scoops or the koi thing are, but i do know the republican media has been pretending Biden is senile for a while now.

Moodles 6y ago
You sound quite partisan to be honest, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. It is true that Trump's (or anyone's) opponents are allowed to be outraged over serious things. But you literally just pointed out at the left also got outraged by trivial things: > The one where he was very proud that he could identify an elephant annnnd that proved he was a very stable genius? Trump boasted about a quiz, who cares? It's not important. But it was in the news cycle. Honestly, I think the left really despited the way Trump talked and phased things more than anything else. If he spoke more mellifluously like Obama, but did even more drone strikes in Yemon, CNN wouldn't go after him as much. Another example is "China virus". You know, like MERS (Middle East Respatory Syndrome), Spanish Flu, Japense encephalitis, German Measels, Zika, Ebola, etc.? All named after where they came from. He only called it the Chinese virus in response to a question from a reporter who said that the Chinese government claimed the US government made it in a lab. But of course, Trump must have said it because he's a racist and wants to blame Chinese Americans. It's just so silly and manufactured outrage. I can think of a few other examples of overblown outraged just off the top of my head. I think the media just generally cried wolf a lot. Every time Trump sneezed it was a scandal. So then people either tuned out entirely, or got outraged by Trump every day. And thus here we are with are divided country.