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Both sides are idiots about fashion: The right: Obama's tan suit. (I actually don't know much about this, can't be bothered to investigate as I'm sure it was d

Both sides are idiots about fashion: The right: Obama's tan suit. (I actually don't know much about this, can't be bothered to investigate as I'm sure it was dumb) The left: Melania Trump's "I don't care, do u?" coat was OBVIOUSLY a secret message saying she doesn't care about migrant children (edit: this is sarcasm: she wore it to say she doesn't care about the media's articles about her, but the media went nuts and said she was saying she hates children, thus proving her point). I could also find articles about Donald Trump sticking his tie to his shirt or something dumb. God what a waste of brain space.

eyelidlessness 6y ago
And you can clearly see the difference: - Obama wore some clothes that people got upset about because it didn’t look great on him. - Melania wore a coat declaring she doesn’t care about how thousands of children are treated.
- Moodles 6y ago
  Wait, what? Are you saying Melania actually wore the coat for that reason? Or are you saying the left's outrage is worse than the right? My OP about Melania was sarcastic: she actually wore it to say she doesn't care about the bullshit articles the media runs with. I can't tell if you agree with me or not over text.
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  - eyelidlessness 6y ago
    She either wore that coat for that reason, or because that consideration was so unimportant to her that she welcomed the interpretation. Either way it doesn't compare to a bad suit.
    - Moodles 6y ago
      Oh jeez. The first lady didn't wear a coat to secretly tell people she hate children. Even if she did secretly hate children (despite all her charity work), why would she want to "secretly" tell the media this by wearing a coat, and then lying about her motivation? Turn off CNN and stop visiting /r/politics once in awhile my man.
      - eyelidlessness 6y ago
        Okay I made the mistake of paraphrasing you. I neither think she hates children of any walk of life nor does so secretly. I do think she was sending the message that she didn’t care what was happening to them and wanted it to be well known. Edit: not that I have any reputation at stake but I’ve literally never intentionally watched CNN or visited /r/anything.
      - cozuya 6y ago
        Melania Trump wore a $39 jacket saying "I don't care really care", as she was getting on a plane to visit a children's shelter in a border town in Texas where many children were separated from their parents. What's the Occam's Razor of why she did that, do you think?
        Moodles 6y ago
        Melania Trump — like all the first ladies — spent a great deal of time doing charity work for kids and so on. Most of the time, nobody paid any attention to her clothes. One time, she wears a jacket, and explains why she's wearing it: "to show the media I don't care what they think.". This day, just like the many other days, she is also doing some charity work (she didn't even wear it while with the kids, by the way). So use Occam's razor yourself: is she doing it to send a secret message that shat she doesn't care about the kids? What on Earth would be her motivation for doing that? To help win votes from people that hate children? If she hates kids, why would she bother getting on a plane in the first place? Or, is it more likely she's doing it for the reasons she literally said? Does she really hate kids? Or, does the media hate her? What's more likely? Use Occam's razor or Hanlon's razor. Why on Earth are you quoting it being a $39 jacket? Why is that relevant? Your overly outraged, negative interpretation is just proving my point about how people are getting outraged over fashion for no good reason.
BitwiseFool 6y ago
I only know about the whole Tan Suit thing because Reddit keeps mentioning how big of a deal it was. They will never let it go. I could counter with "Two Scoops" and Donald Trump feeding Koi incorrectly but I would be rebuffed with example of Republicans getting upset about Barrack Obama's choice of mustard.
- Moodles 6y ago
  Right, so now the outrage is about the other side's outrage? Ironically, they probably talk about the tan suit more now? And I don't know, how can you have it both ways? If you make fun of Trump's hair or his wife's coat, then isn't it exactly the same?
  - BitwiseFool 6y ago
    I think you're exactly right. Outrage begets outrage. If you're trying to look at this as an outside observer, what each side is doing looks exactly the same. Mutually assured pettiness and hypocrisy.
    - Moodles 6y ago
      Maybe it's my social bubble of working in tech and so on, but it seems like the left dominate the outrage more these days. Certainly social media and mainstream media is heavily left-leaning. It's obvious to me which side you have to be careful about saying you support at work. It's obvious which side will attract more downvotes on Reddit and even Hacker News. Perhaps that'll change now that Biden is in the White House, though I doubt it.
      - BitwiseFool 6y ago
        Given that your comment has been downvoted and grayed, your observation seems to have been confirmed. My hunch is that 'the left' is much more involved in activism and that translates to being more vocal in online forums and more liberal in giving out downvotes.

eyelidlessness 6y ago

And you can clearly see the difference: - Obama wore some clothes that people got upset about because it didn’t look great on him. - Melania wore a coat declaring she doesn’t care about how thousands of children are treated.

Moodles 6y ago
Wait, what? Are you saying Melania actually wore the coat for that reason? Or are you saying the left's outrage is worse than the right? My OP about Melania was sarcastic: she actually wore it to say she doesn't care about the bullshit articles the media runs with. I can't tell if you agree with me or not over text.
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- eyelidlessness 6y ago
  She either wore that coat for that reason, or because that consideration was so unimportant to her that she welcomed the interpretation. Either way it doesn't compare to a bad suit.
  - Moodles 6y ago
    Oh jeez. The first lady didn't wear a coat to secretly tell people she hate children. Even if she did secretly hate children (despite all her charity work), why would she want to "secretly" tell the media this by wearing a coat, and then lying about her motivation? Turn off CNN and stop visiting /r/politics once in awhile my man.
    - eyelidlessness 6y ago
      Okay I made the mistake of paraphrasing you. I neither think she hates children of any walk of life nor does so secretly. I do think she was sending the message that she didn’t care what was happening to them and wanted it to be well known. Edit: not that I have any reputation at stake but I’ve literally never intentionally watched CNN or visited /r/anything.
    - cozuya 6y ago
      Melania Trump wore a $39 jacket saying "I don't care really care", as she was getting on a plane to visit a children's shelter in a border town in Texas where many children were separated from their parents. What's the Occam's Razor of why she did that, do you think?
      - Moodles 6y ago
        Melania Trump — like all the first ladies — spent a great deal of time doing charity work for kids and so on. Most of the time, nobody paid any attention to her clothes. One time, she wears a jacket, and explains why she's wearing it: "to show the media I don't care what they think.". This day, just like the many other days, she is also doing some charity work (she didn't even wear it while with the kids, by the way). So use Occam's razor yourself: is she doing it to send a secret message that shat she doesn't care about the kids? What on Earth would be her motivation for doing that? To help win votes from people that hate children? If she hates kids, why would she bother getting on a plane in the first place? Or, is it more likely she's doing it for the reasons she literally said? Does she really hate kids? Or, does the media hate her? What's more likely? Use Occam's razor or Hanlon's razor. Why on Earth are you quoting it being a $39 jacket? Why is that relevant? Your overly outraged, negative interpretation is just proving my point about how people are getting outraged over fashion for no good reason.

BitwiseFool 6y ago

I only know about the whole Tan Suit thing because Reddit keeps mentioning how big of a deal it was. They will never let it go. I could counter with "Two Scoops" and Donald Trump feeding Koi incorrectly but I would be rebuffed with example of Republicans getting upset about Barrack Obama's choice of mustard.

Moodles 6y ago
Right, so now the outrage is about the other side's outrage? Ironically, they probably talk about the tan suit more now? And I don't know, how can you have it both ways? If you make fun of Trump's hair or his wife's coat, then isn't it exactly the same?
- BitwiseFool 6y ago
  I think you're exactly right. Outrage begets outrage. If you're trying to look at this as an outside observer, what each side is doing looks exactly the same. Mutually assured pettiness and hypocrisy.
  - Moodles 6y ago
    Maybe it's my social bubble of working in tech and so on, but it seems like the left dominate the outrage more these days. Certainly social media and mainstream media is heavily left-leaning. It's obvious to me which side you have to be careful about saying you support at work. It's obvious which side will attract more downvotes on Reddit and even Hacker News. Perhaps that'll change now that Biden is in the White House, though I doubt it.
    - BitwiseFool 6y ago
      Given that your comment has been downvoted and grayed, your observation seems to have been confirmed. My hunch is that 'the left' is much more involved in activism and that translates to being more vocal in online forums and more liberal in giving out downvotes.