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Four of five years ago I had exactly the same idea! It's as if you have somehow read it from my brain! Now here's the thing: I even started working on it but th
by perakojotgenije 6y ago
Four of five years ago I had exactly the same idea! It's as if you have somehow read it from my brain! Now here's the thing: I even started working on it but then I started thinking about how many customers I might find and then I stopped working on it. Here's what made me stop:
First, the self hosting. Self hosting is hard. It's impossible for the average user. First, you need to buy and register your domain (and don't forget to renew it every year or two). Then you need to add the DNS record (what's a DNS record?). If you want to host it in your home you need a static IP. How many people know what a static IP is? If you do not have it you need to purchase an online server. Cheapest linode or digitalocean is 5$ a month. Then the installation. You might make a few scripts but how many people will be able to run it? And then, if you finally have your website active you need to take care of backups, too - because mistakes happen. So, to summarize, self hosting is just for technical people, there is no way for Average Joe to do it.
And the there is the hosted solution. It costs 5$/month but what do you get for that money? Yes, you can host your family pictures but you do not get any of the other features that Facebook gives you - the gossips, the ads (some people want to search for things to buy), the latest conspiracy theories, the political flame wars, your grandparents' ramblings... and all that for free!
So, you get just the very basic features, and you will still need to visit Facebook if you want to check your grandparents photos and some of them will not even want to visit your webpage ("why can't you just put photos on Facebook where I can see them? And why do I need an account to see your pictures?"). So, other than some very privacy-oriented people I did not see very many people using it.
Now having said that, I am extremely happy that someone made this! I really hope that I was wrong and that you will find lots and lots of customers. I will follow your project, I might even become a customer (I stopped using Facebook a few years ago and I share pictures with my family using telegram group but it is not exactly the best solution). I wish you best of luck with this project.
- mawise 6y agoThanks for your support! You're spot on with every point you mentioned. I tried to make self-hosting as easy as possible since there is a spectrum of how much technical effort even technical people want to put in. I actually decided to offer paid hosting because I don't think enough people will be able to self-host for all the reasons you mentioned. There are definitely network effects that I'm fighting against, but I really believe it could be a healthier way for people to interact online. If a few people who have given up on Facebook decide to try it out then it makes it a little bit easier for the next people to try it out. I envision a totally different type of online social interaction that could exist if everyone ran their own server--blogging on Haven is just the first step. Imagine getting product and restaurant reviews from your direct connections instead of from centralized services that can be gamed by companies being reviewed. Imagine solving "how do I send you this file" because everyone has a private server they can upload to. Movie/Music/Book recommendations can come directly from your connections. And that's just the start! Blogging and status updates are the first step and hopefully I'll find some time to write about more of these possibilities.