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You completely dodged the question and tried to change the subject, so I'll ask it again: If they had such a wonderful society, why did they have to systematica

You completely dodged the question and tried to change the subject, so I'll ask it again: If they had such a wonderful society, why did they have to systematically mass murder people who wanted to leave this wonderful society?

sudosysgen 6y ago
They did not have a wonderful society. It was very deficient in many ways. I didn't argue that point because we agree. The point I'm arguing is whether or not the USSR could have had a better society if it wasn't for US and other foreign intervention, and the answer is an unequivocal yes.
- Layke1123 6y ago
  Exactly! They can't even consider the possibility it seems because they don't want to even consider it. Its almost as entrenched as what some might call faith that the US was superior to the USSR and if you even suggest the idea of anything else you are downvoted because you are the bad guy for even considering it.
  - alentist 6y ago
    GP: They did not have a wonderful society. It was very deficient in many ways. I didn't argue that point because we agree. You: Exactly! Glad you also agree with my comments, then.
    - sudosysgen 6y ago
      You're the one that replied to >The USSR, had it not had to fight a cold war against the US, could very well have been a much better system not just for space flight, but for a way to structure and run society in general. thus implying disagreements. Since neither of us have contradicted such a statement, either you've been replying hors-sujet or you were just trying to show agreement, right?
      - alentist 6y ago
        Huh?
    - Layke1123 6y ago
      Lol we didn't agree mate but way to try and take a quick win by "selectively" ignoring the parts you don't want to quote.
      - alentist 6y ago
        > Lol we didn't agree mate Your comment says otherwise.
        Layke1123 6y ago
        No, my comment agreed with the idea that the US is the most significant factor responsible for what happened in the USSR.
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        alentist 6y ago
        Yes, it's always someone else's fault when Communist policies inevitably fail and murder millions.
        Layke1123 6y ago
        Does that also apply when Capitalist policies have inevitably failed and murdered millions? The civil war actually was the bloodiest war in the US's history no? Was that not a failure of capitalism? Was the great depression not a failure of capitalism?

sudosysgen 6y ago

They did not have a wonderful society. It was very deficient in many ways. I didn't argue that point because we agree. The point I'm arguing is whether or not the USSR could have had a better society if it wasn't for US and other foreign intervention, and the answer is an unequivocal yes.

Layke1123 6y ago
Exactly! They can't even consider the possibility it seems because they don't want to even consider it. Its almost as entrenched as what some might call faith that the US was superior to the USSR and if you even suggest the idea of anything else you are downvoted because you are the bad guy for even considering it.
- alentist 6y ago
  GP: They did not have a wonderful society. It was very deficient in many ways. I didn't argue that point because we agree. You: Exactly! Glad you also agree with my comments, then.
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    You're the one that replied to >The USSR, had it not had to fight a cold war against the US, could very well have been a much better system not just for space flight, but for a way to structure and run society in general. thus implying disagreements. Since neither of us have contradicted such a statement, either you've been replying hors-sujet or you were just trying to show agreement, right?
    - alentist 6y ago
      Huh?
  - Layke1123 6y ago
    Lol we didn't agree mate but way to try and take a quick win by "selectively" ignoring the parts you don't want to quote.
    - alentist 6y ago
      > Lol we didn't agree mate Your comment says otherwise.
      - Layke1123 6y ago
        No, my comment agreed with the idea that the US is the most significant factor responsible for what happened in the USSR.
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        alentist 6y ago
        Yes, it's always someone else's fault when Communist policies inevitably fail and murder millions.
        Layke1123 6y ago
        Does that also apply when Capitalist policies have inevitably failed and murdered millions? The civil war actually was the bloodiest war in the US's history no? Was that not a failure of capitalism? Was the great depression not a failure of capitalism?