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Nokia Networks used to be called Nokia Siemens Networks - it was a joint venture between Nokia and Siemens before Nokia bought out Siemens in 2013. They still h

by tpmx 6y ago

Nokia Networks used to be called Nokia Siemens Networks - it was a joint venture between Nokia and Siemens before Nokia bought out Siemens in 2013. They still have lots of employees in Germany. Nokia Networks recently announced Open RAN allegiance/support. I guess this is about forcing Ericsson to do the same for some added competition. If they don't, who cares, lots of money will still flow back into the german economy. > The German draft proposal includes over €300 million of investment in Open RAN technology, This is sort of a (possibly) legal way for the german government to subsidize the company formerly known as Nokia Siemens Networks.

liotier 6y ago
I'll believe OpenRAN when I see the interop party. Telco suppliers loath open standards - in practice they are usually only implemented as far as necessary to tick a RFP checkbox. Better than nothing though.
- tpmx 6y ago
  Yeah, I'll tend to agree. I think this is Germany being Germany. As a Swede: I've long thought that EU will split up in northern/southern parts. Germany is in the middle - this is a stab in the back of Sweden. Before this I thought Germany might end up in the northern part. Now they have forged an alliance with Finland/Nokia.
  - bilekas 6y ago
    Stab in the back of Sweden ? How so? Because of lower barrier for entry that might hurt Ericsson's bottom line ? Ericsson will still be at the forefront of EU infrastructure, they have the money to do it and will earn from that, their reputation too is already favoured in the EU over Huwawei.. Which is the whole point. But sure.. Swexit, lets 'extrapolate' that out then, Ericsson will then be under increased tarrifs and excluded from initial EU contract proposals. They have not forged an alliance with anyone, they are leveling the market to allow for other competitors and not have a bottleneck on suppliers.
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marsokod 6y ago
And Nokia bought Alcatel Lucent in 2017 so they've got a presence in France as well.

by tpmx 6y ago

liotier 6y ago

I'll believe OpenRAN when I see the interop party. Telco suppliers loath open standards - in practice they are usually only implemented as far as necessary to tick a RFP checkbox. Better than nothing though.

tpmx 6y ago
Yeah, I'll tend to agree. I think this is Germany being Germany. As a Swede: I've long thought that EU will split up in northern/southern parts. Germany is in the middle - this is a stab in the back of Sweden. Before this I thought Germany might end up in the northern part. Now they have forged an alliance with Finland/Nokia.
- bilekas 6y ago
  Stab in the back of Sweden ? How so? Because of lower barrier for entry that might hurt Ericsson's bottom line ? Ericsson will still be at the forefront of EU infrastructure, they have the money to do it and will earn from that, their reputation too is already favoured in the EU over Huwawei.. Which is the whole point. But sure.. Swexit, lets 'extrapolate' that out then, Ericsson will then be under increased tarrifs and excluded from initial EU contract proposals. They have not forged an alliance with anyone, they are leveling the market to allow for other competitors and not have a bottleneck on suppliers.
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marsokod 6y ago

And Nokia bought Alcatel Lucent in 2017 so they've got a presence in France as well.