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Apple benefits developers by creating an environment in while consumers feel safe spending money. Refund abuse is something all stores deal with and write off.
by zepto 6y ago
Apple benefits developers by creating an environment in while consumers feel safe spending money.
Refund abuse is something all stores deal with and write off.
Scams on the other hand are a problem that Apple must deal with.
Nowhere has Apple suggested that it isn’t their problem. If they don’t solve it, they will suffer.
Apple isn’t having anything ‘both ways’.
- minikites 6y ago>If they don’t solve it, they will suffer. Will they? They shipped defective keyboards for years and they seem to be doing just fine. The idea that "companies who do bad things will be punished in the marketplace thanks to the free market" is juvenile and relies on a false belief in a just world.
- lotsofpulp 6y agoThe market would have punished Apple if a competitive alternative product existed.
- minikites 6y agoSo why doesn't one exist? The whole idea of free market capitalism seems to fall apart when one examines any of the necessary assumptions in any real detail.
- lotsofpulp 6y agoYes, it’s very possible that the barriers to entry are effectively impossible to conquer at some point due to complexity of products and network effects, and therefore due to a lack of sufficient sellers and buyers, a free market doesn’t exist.
- breakfastduck 6y agoUntil macOS is licensed to be installed on non Apple hardware that product will never truly exist.
- zepto 6y agoSurely you aren’t saying no operating system can ever be better than MacOS?
- breakfastduck 6y agoI'm saying no machine is going to directly compete if it's not running macOS. Sure there are people willing to switch OS but most people buy macs for macOS, not the shiny shell. A high class laptop running windows is about as much competition to a macbook as a glass of water is to a pint of lager.
- babypuncher 6y agoClearly the market effect working, because Apple did ditch the defective keyboards in 2019. This years laptops are set to revert a number of other unpopular changes Apple made over the years. I guarantee Apple is only doing these things because the market reception of their 2016+ MacBooks has been less than stellar.
- sam0x17 6y agoApple is quite the exception rather than the rule here though and is hardly a panacea of good examples of market effects. For one they are the most highly valued company in the world... they can afford to react (or not) to the market in many ways other organizations simply cannot afford to consider
- minikites 6y agoIf the market is so efficient, why did it take three years?
- creaturemachine 6y agoWas it, or were the warranty repairs starting to eat into those precious profits? In true Apple fashion those repairs weren't as simple as turning a couple screws.
- zepto 6y ago> Will they? They shipped defective keyboards for years and they seem to be doing just fine. They took a serious hit to their reputation, and they fixed the problem. If they were still introducing new models with the broken keyboards, you would have a point.
- sixstringtheory 6y ago> Refund abuse is something all stores deal with and write off. Yes but don’t traditional retailers purchase the stock up front? Then they’re writing down losses on their own books, I doubt they’re charging back losses from shoplifting to Nabisco and Duracell. I’d give you this point if Apple bought the rights to distribute apps from developers, and then ate the losses for refunds, but it’s the exact opposite. Developers pay for the right to distribute, then lose the refund money when their product is used and then “returned.” They aren’t getting compensated for the incurred server costs from the fraudulent usage period either.
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- nickff 6y agoReturns are often negotiated on a per-supplier basis, though there are usually industry norms. Amazon for instance takes a few percent discount from suppliers to compensate it for returns and exchanges. Beset Buy usually returns unused merchandise, and sells open box items (often taking a loss).