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okay, but in this case there are at least forty separate accusations spanning many years, including a couple minors. [0] I'm all for a healthy dose of skeptici

okay, but in this case there are at least forty separate accusations spanning many years, including a couple minors. [0] I'm all for a healthy dose of skepticism with these things, but how much more would it take to convince you? [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/hi7c7q/designated_thread_for_discussing_cas_anvar/fwetou5/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheExpanse/comments/hi7c7q/designat...

superkuh 6y ago
A court case where he is judged guilty of a crime. Anything else is literally just an unproven accusation.
- leetcrew 6y ago
  do you really live your whole life as if no one does anything wrong unless a) there is a specific law against it and b) they are found guilty in court? most businesses do not operate this way, nor did they before #metoo. I ask this specific question because some of what is alleged in that thread is not actually illegal, it's just a shitty way to treat women. do you think I should get to keep my job if actual customers repeatedly complain that I treated them as disposable pieces of meat?
  - tastyfreeze 6y ago
    A skeezy guy without the visibility that Cas has but the same behavior would only lose their job if they were skeezin' at work. Most of the accounts are of fans that agreed to get drinks with Cas or go to his hotel room. He treated them like shit but there weren't any accounts of rape or abuse.
    - leetcrew 6y ago
      this is part of my point though. they're not just random people; they are fans (ie, customers) that adore the characters he's played. I dunno if that makes it worse morally (probably at least a little), but it definitely makes a bad thing much worse from a business perspective.
      - superkuh 6y ago
        I read the list linked. Did you? He is accused of crimes. Instead of just accusing and witch hunting with an assumed guilt he should be able to face those charges in a court of law. Since he hasn't, no, I don't believe any of the claims of illegal behavior. As for the claims of non-illegal behavior that was rude, well, it reads to me like he often failed at his attempts to pick up woman and was quite bad at it. I don't see any problems.

superkuh 6y ago

A court case where he is judged guilty of a crime. Anything else is literally just an unproven accusation.

leetcrew 6y ago
do you really live your whole life as if no one does anything wrong unless a) there is a specific law against it and b) they are found guilty in court? most businesses do not operate this way, nor did they before #metoo. I ask this specific question because some of what is alleged in that thread is not actually illegal, it's just a shitty way to treat women. do you think I should get to keep my job if actual customers repeatedly complain that I treated them as disposable pieces of meat?
- tastyfreeze 6y ago
  A skeezy guy without the visibility that Cas has but the same behavior would only lose their job if they were skeezin' at work. Most of the accounts are of fans that agreed to get drinks with Cas or go to his hotel room. He treated them like shit but there weren't any accounts of rape or abuse.
  - leetcrew 6y ago
    this is part of my point though. they're not just random people; they are fans (ie, customers) that adore the characters he's played. I dunno if that makes it worse morally (probably at least a little), but it definitely makes a bad thing much worse from a business perspective.
    - superkuh 6y ago
      I read the list linked. Did you? He is accused of crimes. Instead of just accusing and witch hunting with an assumed guilt he should be able to face those charges in a court of law. Since he hasn't, no, I don't believe any of the claims of illegal behavior. As for the claims of non-illegal behavior that was rude, well, it reads to me like he often failed at his attempts to pick up woman and was quite bad at it. I don't see any problems.