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It would be nice to have some sort of viewership stats. You've come at a brilliant time with a solution like this just as my facebook following is growing but s

It would be nice to have some sort of viewership stats. You've come at a brilliant time with a solution like this just as my facebook following is growing but so is my fear that they could delete my account anytime for any arbitrary reason. Twitter just isn't conducive to longform content and not everyone is a pro with threads so this is an idea solution, but seeing how many people liked a post, commented on it etc helps with the feedback loop. I realise you're doing this primarily for people to share personal content, but there's plenty of people out there that want to share personal thoughts to a large part of the world but just don't want to get censored by FB and your solution could work well for them.

freedomben 6y ago
> I realise you're doing this primarily for people to share personal content, but there's plenty of people out there that want to share personal thoughts to a large part of the world but just don't want to get censored by FB and your solution could work well for them. It's probably worth asking OP what their position on censorship is before suggesting this. It's shocking to me, but many in the tech community are very pro censorship (though they will call it "moderation" since it's not happening to them). Also if a customer of OP's got big enough and was controversial enough, AWS could threaten their account if they don't terminate that user's pages. So even if OP is a free speech absolutist, it still may not be a solution to the problem of big tech censorship.
- montroser 6y ago
  Anyone can spin up a website for negligible cost and put in place whatever legal content they so choose. If government interferes with that, then you have a claim to censorship. Short of that though -- if a private company like Facebook or Twitter declines to host your content, that is entirely their right. It's not a public utility. Free speech means you can say whatever you like. It doesn't mean you have a right to a platform and an audience.
  - nomdep 6y ago
    > Anyone can spin up a website for negligible cost and put in place whatever legal content they so choose. And host it where exactly?
    - montroser 6y ago
      GitHub Pages, Firebase will do free static hosting, Wix has a free plan, etc, etc
      - nomdep 6y ago
        Except those are also private conpanies that can and will kick you out if what you say is inconvinient in any form. And so my question.
- mawise 6y ago
  Censorship is a tough topic. As long as Haven is restricted to private posting, then it should be able to operate with 100% freedom of speech. When you send an email to your friend, you get 100% freedom of speech. Private, access restricted posting should be equivalent. If I were to explore public posting on Haven, then censorship/moderation becomes an issue. Public posting is outside of the focus I want to have and this would just make it more complicated for Haven so I'm not planning to explore anything that lets you "grow your audience"--I'm focusing on private sharing with your existing community.
dublinben 6y ago
>share personal thoughts to a large part of the world Have you considered a blog, or even a newsletter?
- krmmalik 6y ago
  Yes but I like that it's simple and self-hosted with the privacy aspect.

freedomben 6y ago

> I realise you're doing this primarily for people to share personal content, but there's plenty of people out there that want to share personal thoughts to a large part of the world but just don't want to get censored by FB and your solution could work well for them. It's probably worth asking OP what their position on censorship is before suggesting this. It's shocking to me, but many in the tech community are very pro censorship (though they will call it "moderation" since it's not happening to them). Also if a customer of OP's got big enough and was controversial enough, AWS could threaten their account if they don't terminate that user's pages. So even if OP is a free speech absolutist, it still may not be a solution to the problem of big tech censorship.

montroser 6y ago
Anyone can spin up a website for negligible cost and put in place whatever legal content they so choose. If government interferes with that, then you have a claim to censorship. Short of that though -- if a private company like Facebook or Twitter declines to host your content, that is entirely their right. It's not a public utility. Free speech means you can say whatever you like. It doesn't mean you have a right to a platform and an audience.
- nomdep 6y ago
  > Anyone can spin up a website for negligible cost and put in place whatever legal content they so choose. And host it where exactly?
  - montroser 6y ago
    GitHub Pages, Firebase will do free static hosting, Wix has a free plan, etc, etc
    - nomdep 6y ago
      Except those are also private conpanies that can and will kick you out if what you say is inconvinient in any form. And so my question.
mawise 6y ago
Censorship is a tough topic. As long as Haven is restricted to private posting, then it should be able to operate with 100% freedom of speech. When you send an email to your friend, you get 100% freedom of speech. Private, access restricted posting should be equivalent. If I were to explore public posting on Haven, then censorship/moderation becomes an issue. Public posting is outside of the focus I want to have and this would just make it more complicated for Haven so I'm not planning to explore anything that lets you "grow your audience"--I'm focusing on private sharing with your existing community.

dublinben 6y ago

>share personal thoughts to a large part of the world Have you considered a blog, or even a newsletter?

krmmalik 6y ago
Yes but I like that it's simple and self-hosted with the privacy aspect.