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I can see a difference between rage leading to property destruction and rage leading to "I'm going to execute [politician whom their conspiracy theory outlet ha

I can see a difference between rage leading to property destruction and rage leading to "I'm going to execute [politician whom their conspiracy theory outlet have made to be a traitor, pure evil, pedophile, etc, etc]". OK you're going to say only a minority of the Capitol invaders had such thoughts, but that's the same with BLM "rioters" as well (what you're obviously refering to).

hn8788 6y ago
I don't support what happened at the Capitol, but it made more sense to me than what was happening over the summer. They thought they were betrayed or whatever by the government, so they took it out on the government. What sense does it make for BLM "protesters" to burn cars and buildings, loot stores, etc., to protest police violence?
- EvilEy3 6y ago
  But, b-but... stop asking racist questions! Billions of generations suffered from raysism! Cars, buildings and police are all part of the problem!
- ntsplnkv2 6y ago
  It's not a monolith like the capitol insurrection was and you're conflating the riots with the protests when they are two different things. When the protestors were outside hearing the president speak it was a protest. When they tried to storm the capitol it was an insurrection. There are clear, easy lines to be drawn. People don't draw these lines though because they want to further their political agenda.
  - leesalminen 6y ago
    > It's not a monolith like the capitol insurrection was I don’t think what happened at the Capitol was a monolith either. There were 10,000s of people in DC that day and only 100s (?) entered the Capitol illegally. So, it’s entirely similar to what happened over the summer with BLM where there were 10,000s of peaceful protestors and 100s of violent rioters.
    - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
      I didn't say it was, in fact, I stated that it wasn't, and showed the example. However the scale of BLM far dwarfed the scale of the failed insurrection - it is much less monolithic, and has much less central leadership.
Bakary 6y ago
The more cynicism-inducing aspect of it is that criticism of a lack of masks or safety distances was set aside for the latter protests, only to resume later. Either the virus is continually dangerous or it isn't to begin with, it can't suddenly become a minor problem during a political movement that people agree with and then be a grave threat again.
covidthrow 6y ago
While I wouldn't want our politicians subject to the risk of violence, I can't help but wonder what would have actually happened if some of the people that had such thoughts came into contact with their targets. While there have been a few assassinations of police since the BLM riots started years ago, I'm not aware of any overt attacks on the persons in politics by the right. Obviously this is fairly fresh, so we'll see, but my point is there's talk and then there's action. This is just a point of curiosity, not affirmations of the actions at the capitol. The plot against the Michigan governor by the right-wing anarchists strikes me as a much more credible threat than what occurred at the capitol, even though the latter is spoken about with some sort of future-telling confidence.
- netsharc 6y ago
  Actually the Michigan plot were some guys thinking they're in an action movie: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1314237833276612609.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1314237833276612609.html Then again, most of the Q-Anon Capitol invasion force is probably like that too. My thought is, they were a huge mob goading each other. I do remember noticing some people trying to stop others who were breaking stuff, so surely some of them thought they were going there to just be heard, but others went in seemingly ready to kidnap people. But the mob mentality could've lead to someone getting beaten to death.

hn8788 6y ago

I don't support what happened at the Capitol, but it made more sense to me than what was happening over the summer. They thought they were betrayed or whatever by the government, so they took it out on the government. What sense does it make for BLM "protesters" to burn cars and buildings, loot stores, etc., to protest police violence?

EvilEy3 6y ago
But, b-but... stop asking racist questions! Billions of generations suffered from raysism! Cars, buildings and police are all part of the problem!
ntsplnkv2 6y ago
It's not a monolith like the capitol insurrection was and you're conflating the riots with the protests when they are two different things. When the protestors were outside hearing the president speak it was a protest. When they tried to storm the capitol it was an insurrection. There are clear, easy lines to be drawn. People don't draw these lines though because they want to further their political agenda.
- leesalminen 6y ago
  > It's not a monolith like the capitol insurrection was I don’t think what happened at the Capitol was a monolith either. There were 10,000s of people in DC that day and only 100s (?) entered the Capitol illegally. So, it’s entirely similar to what happened over the summer with BLM where there were 10,000s of peaceful protestors and 100s of violent rioters.
  - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
    I didn't say it was, in fact, I stated that it wasn't, and showed the example. However the scale of BLM far dwarfed the scale of the failed insurrection - it is much less monolithic, and has much less central leadership.

Bakary 6y ago

The more cynicism-inducing aspect of it is that criticism of a lack of masks or safety distances was set aside for the latter protests, only to resume later. Either the virus is continually dangerous or it isn't to begin with, it can't suddenly become a minor problem during a political movement that people agree with and then be a grave threat again.

covidthrow 6y ago

While I wouldn't want our politicians subject to the risk of violence, I can't help but wonder what would have actually happened if some of the people that had such thoughts came into contact with their targets. While there have been a few assassinations of police since the BLM riots started years ago, I'm not aware of any overt attacks on the persons in politics by the right. Obviously this is fairly fresh, so we'll see, but my point is there's talk and then there's action. This is just a point of curiosity, not affirmations of the actions at the capitol. The plot against the Michigan governor by the right-wing anarchists strikes me as a much more credible threat than what occurred at the capitol, even though the latter is spoken about with some sort of future-telling confidence.

netsharc 6y ago
Actually the Michigan plot were some guys thinking they're in an action movie: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1314237833276612609.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1314237833276612609.html Then again, most of the Q-Anon Capitol invasion force is probably like that too. My thought is, they were a huge mob goading each other. I do remember noticing some people trying to stop others who were breaking stuff, so surely some of them thought they were going there to just be heard, but others went in seemingly ready to kidnap people. But the mob mentality could've lead to someone getting beaten to death.