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I don't get it. The author has an issue that one of the biggest servers hosted in Japan and used mostly by Japanese users has content that is perfectly legal an

I don't get it. The author has an issue that one of the biggest servers hosted in Japan and used mostly by Japanese users has content that is perfectly legal and socially acceptable in Japan, but questionable in the USA? Is this a new norm on the internet? Should we all follow American legal and social conventions everywhere?

square_usual 6y ago
No? My understanding is that the author implies people who believe the Fediverse is a "safe" place from bigots are misguided.
- smitty1e 6y ago
  I had a recent experience on a server thst seemed a fun community, until an admin took a dislike to something I said and punted me. It was a brusque move, but, in retrospect, who needs that sort of mess?
TheChaplain 6y ago
Well, I lived in asia for a few years and that is unfortunately not an uncommon attitude from americans. Few are loudmouths on social media, but there are more in expat social gatherings, complaining about just about everything that is different in their new host country. Canadians however, seem to really work to fit in. Almost all I met learned the language, participated in cultural events and made local friends.
- AmericanChopper 6y ago
  I lived and worked in SEA for about 10 years. I’m pretty sure I never went to an expat social gathering. I never understood expat communities. Primarily socializing with an insular expat social groups seemed to defeat the purpose of moving abroad to a certain extent.
  - dogma1138 6y ago
    I wonder if people would say the same about immigrant communities in their own country it’s basically the same thing you just get to see the other side of it.
    - AmericanChopper 6y ago
      Insular immigrant communities who take no interest in local customs, or even worse, attempt to coerce local conformance to their own customs are generally viewed as rather contemptible in every country. If you can’t adapt to the local way of doing things, then you’re simply a bad immigrant. The western identity politics view that this is somehow racist or xenophobic is anomalous and you won’t find it anywhere else in the world. I made a lot of great friends living in SEA, and met a lot of locals who were very welcoming of me. But those same people would typically (and rightfully, imo) hold a rather dim view of westerns who moved in, had no interest in learning the local language, little interest in learning local cultural customs, and little interest in participating in local communities.
- DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
  I try to stay away from the expat crowds mostly because they usually did not put in much effort to be where they are. They often get sent overseas by their company, everything is arranged and they are generally (not all of them) people who have little appetite for risk but like to paint themselves as the adventurers. they also do not mingle with locals. Even in the South of France I knew many Brits who did all their shopping at the "British groceries" store to buy "Australian wine" and they generally do not welcome non-native speakers or much preferably also Brit (note native speaker to the colonialist always means the person does not speak another second language - e.g. Indians will never be "expats" in their eyes) Have seen many Australians, Kiwis, Canadians who actively tried to avoid that specific expat crowd, but Brits/Americans (or also Japanese) are _very_ rare to mix with locals outside their work environment. It doesn't mean they're bad people. I have many friends who would never bother to go abroad unless it's a 5-star wellness trip isolated away from all the reality (and locals) of the country. They're just not the most interesting or adventurous people and so it's OK if they stay in their own little bubbles without bothering the rest of us imo :) Usually if I hear my mother tongue in a foreign country I usually change to the other side of the street.
  - caminocorner 6y ago
    Weird. Generally the expats I know are the opposite
    - ratww 6y ago
      Keep in mind that if you're a native, or even a more "outgoing" kind of expat, you probably won't see those insular expats at all. I'm also an expat/immigrant. I met some people who have been living here for 10 years and haven't picked up the language yet. The only reason I know about them is because they heard me speaking another language in a quick phone call and wanted a friend. Like parent said, nothing wrong with that (plus, I'm not American, so I can't speak about the problems mentioned by the GP post)
caminocorner 6y ago
That one only one of several points the author made. Do you not 'get' the others or are you just confused by this one point?
grishka 6y ago
As I understand, some people seriously take issue with whatever is contained in that utterly useless "global" feed in Mastodon. This is basically all public posts that your instance receives. Some instances use ActivityPub relays to receive even more posts as by default an instance only receives the posts from users that have followers on said instance.

square_usual 6y ago

No? My understanding is that the author implies people who believe the Fediverse is a "safe" place from bigots are misguided.

smitty1e 6y ago
I had a recent experience on a server thst seemed a fun community, until an admin took a dislike to something I said and punted me. It was a brusque move, but, in retrospect, who needs that sort of mess?

TheChaplain 6y ago

Well, I lived in asia for a few years and that is unfortunately not an uncommon attitude from americans. Few are loudmouths on social media, but there are more in expat social gatherings, complaining about just about everything that is different in their new host country. Canadians however, seem to really work to fit in. Almost all I met learned the language, participated in cultural events and made local friends.

AmericanChopper 6y ago
I lived and worked in SEA for about 10 years. I’m pretty sure I never went to an expat social gathering. I never understood expat communities. Primarily socializing with an insular expat social groups seemed to defeat the purpose of moving abroad to a certain extent.
- dogma1138 6y ago
  I wonder if people would say the same about immigrant communities in their own country it’s basically the same thing you just get to see the other side of it.
  - AmericanChopper 6y ago
    Insular immigrant communities who take no interest in local customs, or even worse, attempt to coerce local conformance to their own customs are generally viewed as rather contemptible in every country. If you can’t adapt to the local way of doing things, then you’re simply a bad immigrant. The western identity politics view that this is somehow racist or xenophobic is anomalous and you won’t find it anywhere else in the world. I made a lot of great friends living in SEA, and met a lot of locals who were very welcoming of me. But those same people would typically (and rightfully, imo) hold a rather dim view of westerns who moved in, had no interest in learning the local language, little interest in learning local cultural customs, and little interest in participating in local communities.
DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
I try to stay away from the expat crowds mostly because they usually did not put in much effort to be where they are. They often get sent overseas by their company, everything is arranged and they are generally (not all of them) people who have little appetite for risk but like to paint themselves as the adventurers. they also do not mingle with locals. Even in the South of France I knew many Brits who did all their shopping at the "British groceries" store to buy "Australian wine" and they generally do not welcome non-native speakers or much preferably also Brit (note native speaker to the colonialist always means the person does not speak another second language - e.g. Indians will never be "expats" in their eyes) Have seen many Australians, Kiwis, Canadians who actively tried to avoid that specific expat crowd, but Brits/Americans (or also Japanese) are _very_ rare to mix with locals outside their work environment. It doesn't mean they're bad people. I have many friends who would never bother to go abroad unless it's a 5-star wellness trip isolated away from all the reality (and locals) of the country. They're just not the most interesting or adventurous people and so it's OK if they stay in their own little bubbles without bothering the rest of us imo :) Usually if I hear my mother tongue in a foreign country I usually change to the other side of the street.
- caminocorner 6y ago
  Weird. Generally the expats I know are the opposite
  - ratww 6y ago
    Keep in mind that if you're a native, or even a more "outgoing" kind of expat, you probably won't see those insular expats at all. I'm also an expat/immigrant. I met some people who have been living here for 10 years and haven't picked up the language yet. The only reason I know about them is because they heard me speaking another language in a quick phone call and wanted a friend. Like parent said, nothing wrong with that (plus, I'm not American, so I can't speak about the problems mentioned by the GP post)

caminocorner 6y ago

That one only one of several points the author made. Do you not 'get' the others or are you just confused by this one point?

grishka 6y ago

As I understand, some people seriously take issue with whatever is contained in that utterly useless "global" feed in Mastodon. This is basically all public posts that your instance receives. Some instances use ActivityPub relays to receive even more posts as by default an instance only receives the posts from users that have followers on said instance.