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Thats a very US American (anglosaxon?) viewpoint to take. Education is paid for by society in most Western parts of the world.

eCa 6y ago
To be fair, there’s still an opportunity cost, and most people also need student loans.
Cthulhu_ 6y ago
The US is composed of a heap of immigrants that migrated to the US and to a point intermingled culturally to come up with a new country / culture. The Anglo-Saxons were a people made out of immigrants from Germanic Europe that migrated to what is now England and mingled with indigenous British groups, tracing back to the 5th century. It's often used to refer to the language spoken in England and eastern Scotland until the mid-12th century, also called Old English. The culture and language were pretty much defunct after the Norman Conquest. Something I found out / realized not that long ago: the Norman Conquest wasn't actually vikings, but French from Normandy. Mind you, vikings from Denmark and Norway were also a thing around the same time.
- globular-toast 6y ago
  Is it common to think the Normans were Vikings? The Normans are the reason why half of the English dictionary consists of French words.
  - babesh 6y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans They were a mixed people, partly descended from Vikings. Not only people descended from Vikings invaded England. You had non Viking French in there too.
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- rozab 6y ago
  The term has a more complex meaning in America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestants#Anglo-Saxon_in_modern_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestants#...
  - finiteseries 6y ago
    Every American cited in this section, Anglo-Saxon in modern usage, is dead. The only remaining usage of Anglo Saxon in the contemporary USA is as part of the already antiquated “WASP” term. Anglo Saxon in reference to the US is in my very-online anecdotal experience roughly ~70% French speakers, 15% continental Europeans, and 15% race based nationalists. Americans usually just say “white”, even when specifically referring to classic WASP cases, especially after the Germans, Italians, and other ethnic groups were absorbed over the last century.
    - Pyramus 6y ago
      Thank you for the replies with respect to my usage of the term 'Anglo-Saxon', which I had not really reflected upon. In Germany the term is used to refer to the germanic tribe of the same name, which settled in Britain, and its asserted descendents, i.e. a somewhat loose collection of Great Britain, the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
    - Bakary 6y ago
      To be more precise, Anglo-saxon in French refers to the anglosphere and its culture. It's a commonly used word with neutral connotations
- simonh 6y ago
  There was a lot of Norse cultural influence in the North of England, but of course they had a lot of linguistic crossover with the Anglo-Saxons. In some recent historical TV shows the cultural differences between Anglo-Saxons and the Danes are exaggerated for narrative reasons, but they could actually understand each other's languages reasonably well. The influence of Anglo-Saxon culture is the main reason why English culture isn't the same as French culture, so I don't think you can really say it's defunct. The influence of French is stronger in southern 'BBC' English, but England has a lot of regional dialects that still retain a lot of quite ancient linguistic influences.
- Bakary 6y ago
  The Normans weren't French or Viking, they were their own thing just like the Anglo-Saxons. The concept of Frenchness wasn't even well defined then.
Kathula 6y ago
Sure, the education is paid(via taxes), but you still need to pay rent, food, bills etc. All people I know that studied took student loans.
- kungito 6y ago
  0 people I know that studied took loans
caffeine 6y ago
Doesn't change your parent's point. It's still a luxury consumption good, just maybe it's other people's parents paying for you to drink and party instead of your own.
foxrider 6y ago
I'm not from the US and I got "free" education where I live, and I still feel like I've lost money. If I've started working 4 years earlier I would've gotten more experience and more money, and surely wouldn't be as miserable in the meantime as I've been in the Uni. I don't feel like I've learned anything substantial that couldn't be covered by a short online course, but I sure spent much more than working hours stressing out and torturing myself with absolute garbage topics.
CountDrewku 6y ago
Which means it's paid by your taxes. It comes out of someone's pockets. Almost ANYONE can go to college in the US. You can be a complete idiot and still get in somewhere. You could argue that's a bad thing but countries that pay for higher education via taxes typically have much stricter standards on getting in to school. IF I'm going to be paying for other people's higher ed then there better be something in place making sure they actually finish or deserve to be there.

eCa 6y ago

To be fair, there’s still an opportunity cost, and most people also need student loans.

Cthulhu_ 6y ago

The US is composed of a heap of immigrants that migrated to the US and to a point intermingled culturally to come up with a new country / culture. The Anglo-Saxons were a people made out of immigrants from Germanic Europe that migrated to what is now England and mingled with indigenous British groups, tracing back to the 5th century. It's often used to refer to the language spoken in England and eastern Scotland until the mid-12th century, also called Old English. The culture and language were pretty much defunct after the Norman Conquest. Something I found out / realized not that long ago: the Norman Conquest wasn't actually vikings, but French from Normandy. Mind you, vikings from Denmark and Norway were also a thing around the same time.

globular-toast 6y ago
Is it common to think the Normans were Vikings? The Normans are the reason why half of the English dictionary consists of French words.
- babesh 6y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normans They were a mixed people, partly descended from Vikings. Not only people descended from Vikings invaded England. You had non Viking French in there too.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
rozab 6y ago
The term has a more complex meaning in America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestants#Anglo-Saxon_in_modern_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestants#...
- finiteseries 6y ago
  Every American cited in this section, Anglo-Saxon in modern usage, is dead. The only remaining usage of Anglo Saxon in the contemporary USA is as part of the already antiquated “WASP” term. Anglo Saxon in reference to the US is in my very-online anecdotal experience roughly ~70% French speakers, 15% continental Europeans, and 15% race based nationalists. Americans usually just say “white”, even when specifically referring to classic WASP cases, especially after the Germans, Italians, and other ethnic groups were absorbed over the last century.
  - Pyramus 6y ago
    Thank you for the replies with respect to my usage of the term 'Anglo-Saxon', which I had not really reflected upon. In Germany the term is used to refer to the germanic tribe of the same name, which settled in Britain, and its asserted descendents, i.e. a somewhat loose collection of Great Britain, the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
  - Bakary 6y ago
    To be more precise, Anglo-saxon in French refers to the anglosphere and its culture. It's a commonly used word with neutral connotations
simonh 6y ago
There was a lot of Norse cultural influence in the North of England, but of course they had a lot of linguistic crossover with the Anglo-Saxons. In some recent historical TV shows the cultural differences between Anglo-Saxons and the Danes are exaggerated for narrative reasons, but they could actually understand each other's languages reasonably well. The influence of Anglo-Saxon culture is the main reason why English culture isn't the same as French culture, so I don't think you can really say it's defunct. The influence of French is stronger in southern 'BBC' English, but England has a lot of regional dialects that still retain a lot of quite ancient linguistic influences.
Bakary 6y ago
The Normans weren't French or Viking, they were their own thing just like the Anglo-Saxons. The concept of Frenchness wasn't even well defined then.

Kathula 6y ago

Sure, the education is paid(via taxes), but you still need to pay rent, food, bills etc. All people I know that studied took student loans.

kungito 6y ago
0 people I know that studied took loans

caffeine 6y ago

Doesn't change your parent's point. It's still a luxury consumption good, just maybe it's other people's parents paying for you to drink and party instead of your own.

foxrider 6y ago

I'm not from the US and I got "free" education where I live, and I still feel like I've lost money. If I've started working 4 years earlier I would've gotten more experience and more money, and surely wouldn't be as miserable in the meantime as I've been in the Uni. I don't feel like I've learned anything substantial that couldn't be covered by a short online course, but I sure spent much more than working hours stressing out and torturing myself with absolute garbage topics.

CountDrewku 6y ago

Which means it's paid by your taxes. It comes out of someone's pockets. Almost ANYONE can go to college in the US. You can be a complete idiot and still get in somewhere. You could argue that's a bad thing but countries that pay for higher education via taxes typically have much stricter standards on getting in to school. IF I'm going to be paying for other people's higher ed then there better be something in place making sure they actually finish or deserve to be there.