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It's interesting how common to see on somewhere like reddit "if Hitler was alive today I'd go shoot him/whatever/blah blah blah" but I think the general sentime

by anm89 6y ago

It's interesting how common to see on somewhere like reddit "if Hitler was alive today I'd go shoot him/whatever/blah blah blah" but I think the general sentiment that people wouldn't stand for another holocaust today is pretty widely accepted. And yet here we are with it happening in plain sight and it doesn't seem to bother too many people.

unityByFreedom 6y ago
> it doesn't seem to bother too many people. Articles like this making the news says otherwise. It's hard to defend the CCP when they imprison people for no other reason than having a culture that's different from the CCP.
- mercer 6y ago
  It's good to see articles, but they don't amount to much if it doesn't actually change things. The impression I get is that China is important enough to the economic bottom-line that nobody, whether Apple or Hollywood, will go for a substantial response.
  - unityByFreedom 6y ago
    Apathy gets us nowhere. Discussion through articles amounts to awareness which can lead to change. Change is possible and may not happen overnight or from one article.
tim333 6y ago
It's not quite another holocaust. The closest we've had in recent times was the 'Genocide of Yazidis by ISIL' and while the world was a bit slow to react they did eventually go kill most of ISIL which is probably the appropriate response to that. I'm not quite sure what's appropriate for China and the Uighurs - it's not quite bad enough to bomb China but some serious trade sanctions could be in order.
- anm89 6y ago
  I mean nothing will ever be exactly another holocaust. I think that's the point I'm making. There will never be another German guy with a funny mustache in a brown suit, gassing an ethnic group in showers. But here we have - concentration camps and large scale forced detention and labor - organized genocide (admittedly on a much smaller scale than the holocaust) - systematic rape and organ harvesting I mean if you had to assign some negative utility score to both events I'm sure you could easily argue the Holocaust was worse, but I think that misses the point. Once you check all of those boxes, you are dealing with the same category of thing.

by anm89 6y ago

unityByFreedom 6y ago

> it doesn't seem to bother too many people. Articles like this making the news says otherwise. It's hard to defend the CCP when they imprison people for no other reason than having a culture that's different from the CCP.

mercer 6y ago
It's good to see articles, but they don't amount to much if it doesn't actually change things. The impression I get is that China is important enough to the economic bottom-line that nobody, whether Apple or Hollywood, will go for a substantial response.
- unityByFreedom 6y ago
  Apathy gets us nowhere. Discussion through articles amounts to awareness which can lead to change. Change is possible and may not happen overnight or from one article.

tim333 6y ago

It's not quite another holocaust. The closest we've had in recent times was the 'Genocide of Yazidis by ISIL' and while the world was a bit slow to react they did eventually go kill most of ISIL which is probably the appropriate response to that. I'm not quite sure what's appropriate for China and the Uighurs - it's not quite bad enough to bomb China but some serious trade sanctions could be in order.

anm89 6y ago
I mean nothing will ever be exactly another holocaust. I think that's the point I'm making. There will never be another German guy with a funny mustache in a brown suit, gassing an ethnic group in showers. But here we have - concentration camps and large scale forced detention and labor - organized genocide (admittedly on a much smaller scale than the holocaust) - systematic rape and organ harvesting I mean if you had to assign some negative utility score to both events I'm sure you could easily argue the Holocaust was worse, but I think that misses the point. Once you check all of those boxes, you are dealing with the same category of thing.