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> which China says exist for the "re-education" of the Uighurs and other minorities. Even China does not deny the camps. The disagreement almost seems to depe
by MattGaiser 6y ago
> which China says exist for the "re-education" of the Uighurs and other minorities.
Even China does not deny the camps. The disagreement almost seems to depend on whether "re-education" is considered sinister. In the West? Obviously. In China? That is apparently a normal thing to admit to doing.
- unityByFreedom 6y agoIt's only normal in China because if you speak against it you and your family are disappeared. So, not really normal. The CCP can admit to a lot of bad things under these oppressive conditions.
- anm89 6y agoThat's a weird word game to play. So you are pointing out that the government supports there own policy? In this potentially makes it not sinister? Yes, the obviously make an attempt to normalize their policy, just like every government does with every policy. The problem is what they are doing is wrong.
- MattGaiser 6y agoI am surprised that the Chinese government so openly admits to behavior much of the rest of the world finds horrifying. I was also commenting on how people deny the camps exist even when the Chinese themselves admit they exist.
- Paradigma11 6y agoThe chinese government did deny most of the camps for a long time and only after repeatedly confronted with overwhelming evidence to the contrary changed their tune to widespread (re)education camps.
- unityByFreedom 6y ago> I am surprised that the Chinese government so openly admits to behavior much of the rest of the world finds horrifying. They don't admit it, they whitewash atrocities by saying the camps are for "re-education".
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoWhich, if you look at the history of "re-education", is still horrifying.
- unityByFreedom 6y agoAnyone sold by the "re-education" line is not looking at the history.
- Koiwai 6y agoTell me why "re-education" is sinister again? Uyghur economy has been relying on agriculture for centuries, and suffered from extreme poverty, they need education to adapt for this fast evolving world, how hard and far-fetched is that to understand?
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- chrisavl 6y agoIt is sinister because re-education camp is a euphemism for concentration camp.
- Koiwai 6y agoThis is like kindergarten arguments. You: You have concentration camp! you're evil! China: No we have re-education camp. You: Ha, busted, you admit the camp existed, and re-education camp is concentration camp. I'm out.
- cannabis_sam 6y agoWhy do you ask this question? Usually, internment camps are bad. Meanwhile, there is true testimony. Also, why are Uyghurs singled out? Obviously this isn’t about poverty.
- Koiwai 6y agoYou say true testimony, I say single sided story. Uyghur separatists contributed too. BTW, years ago western media liked Tibet separatists AKA Dalai Lama, now they found a new pet.
- stjohnswarts 6y agoIt's probably that whole "dumb" humanistic concept of choosing your own path in life rather than the government choosing it for you.
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