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Are the cloud losses all real or is it an accounting artifact due to internally providing services without charging for them in full?

• mike_d 6y ago
  GCP runs on Google, but Google doesn't run on GCP.
• paxys 6y ago
  I don't think there's any major production Google service actually running on GCP (which, IMO, is a problem and likely one of the reasons for their trouble).
  • scarmig 6y ago
    Internally Google has platforms that support easy reproducible builds, binary verification, secure deployment, etc. out of the box. Those don't exist for GCP (or, for that matter, other cloud platforms). That means you need a strong justification for GCP over borg. Many acquisitions and Other Bets do end up on GCP after migrating from AWS/Azure, though.
    • kevincox 6y ago
      Another way to look at it is that Google has a batteries-included opinionated way to deploy internal services, it would be an incredibly tough sell to off that more directly to other users. "First rewrite your app in one of these 4 languages" doesn't fly. People want to buy a VM, or maybe a Kubernetes cluster. (Plus external services need stronger tenant isolation which Google internal services don't deliver)