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I believe true webdesigners are in decline. You have lots of people who do this as a side gig after reading a few tutorials. In a way that’s a nice compliment f

by prox 6y ago

I believe true webdesigners are in decline. You have lots of people who do this as a side gig after reading a few tutorials. In a way that’s a nice compliment for the accessibility of the tech, but not accessibility for the end user. Same with “We only tested this on Chrome.” of sites/apps, of which are there are many, as I can attest, as I never use Chrome.

mywittyname 6y ago
It's just plain hard to keep up with front-end tech. Most people use front-end dev work as an entry point. They quickly realize there are more sane jobs available on the backend and migrate there.
devmunchies 6y ago
> sites/apps I don't think apps are as relevant to current discussion. For apps (not public websites), there are different requirements depending on the target audience. I wouldn't be mad at a B2B web app being desktop only, no mobile CSS. But I agree that web apps should still be compliant with safari + FF + Chrome.
jefftk 6y ago
> I believe true webdesigners are in decline. You have lots of people who do this as a side gig after reading a few tutorials. In decline from when? Picking it up after reading a few tutorials has always been a common way to get into web work, and if anything I feel like it's been getting more professionalized over the last twenty years.
- prox 6y ago
  Just the general gist over the last few years. I am not saying there are no really skilled professionals, I am just seeing a lot of lower par work from jobs I take over. Plus just by surfing the web and noting the quality.
  - girvo 6y ago
    I’ve been doing web development since 2007, and I’m struggling to think of an era that had more professionals doing front end than we have now. I’m not sure my experience agrees with you
  - pault 6y ago
    You’re getting better. :)
silon42 6y ago
IMNSHO, more or less the case since they stopped using tables for layout.

by prox 6y ago

mywittyname 6y ago

It's just plain hard to keep up with front-end tech. Most people use front-end dev work as an entry point. They quickly realize there are more sane jobs available on the backend and migrate there.

devmunchies 6y ago

> sites/apps I don't think apps are as relevant to current discussion. For apps (not public websites), there are different requirements depending on the target audience. I wouldn't be mad at a B2B web app being desktop only, no mobile CSS. But I agree that web apps should still be compliant with safari + FF + Chrome.

jefftk 6y ago

> I believe true webdesigners are in decline. You have lots of people who do this as a side gig after reading a few tutorials. In decline from when? Picking it up after reading a few tutorials has always been a common way to get into web work, and if anything I feel like it's been getting more professionalized over the last twenty years.

prox 6y ago
Just the general gist over the last few years. I am not saying there are no really skilled professionals, I am just seeing a lot of lower par work from jobs I take over. Plus just by surfing the web and noting the quality.
- girvo 6y ago
  I’ve been doing web development since 2007, and I’m struggling to think of an era that had more professionals doing front end than we have now. I’m not sure my experience agrees with you
- pault 6y ago
  You’re getting better. :)

silon42 6y ago

IMNSHO, more or less the case since they stopped using tables for layout.