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A question for you - are you one of the relatively few people on Earth who actually gets a part of that prosperity? Like, access to electricity on demand, enoug

A question for you - are you one of the relatively few people on Earth who actually gets a part of that prosperity? Like, access to electricity on demand, enough food to eat, clean water to drink, health care, the whole deal? Cause there are a lot of people who don't get to have prosperity and still are seeing the effects of your choices. In fact, many of them are even more impacted by the harmful effects of the choices you're making than you are! Why don't they get a say too?

read_if_gay_ 6y ago
Developing nations pollute more than developed nations. They are mostly seeing the effect of their own choices. (yes, you could argue they don’t exactly have a choice, but still it’s not like they’re suffering from GP’s personal choices)
- A12-B 6y ago
  This is not true. Per capita, the highest polluters are developed nations. On absolute terms, the highest polluters are also developed nations. Most pollution comes from industry, not individuals. As far as I'm aware you cannot choose what another industry does, because they have private rights. There is no 'but still', no one has a choice. https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis... https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/ https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-pe...
  - read_if_gay_ 6y ago
    Thank you for bringing some actual data. However, I think one has to question the accuracy of CO2 emissions data collected in developing nations [0]. That's not to say it's all pointless, just that I doubt they'll be keeping track of the emissions of that tire graveyard that accidentally burned down yesterday, for example. Or chemicals dumped into the environment by the local mining company. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in your second paragraph. Maybe you could elaborate? [0] https://e360.yale.edu/features/paris-conundrum-how-to-know-how-much-carbon-is-being-emitted https://e360.yale.edu/features/paris-conundrum-how-to-know-h...

read_if_gay_ 6y ago

Developing nations pollute more than developed nations. They are mostly seeing the effect of their own choices. (yes, you could argue they don’t exactly have a choice, but still it’s not like they’re suffering from GP’s personal choices)

A12-B 6y ago
This is not true. Per capita, the highest polluters are developed nations. On absolute terms, the highest polluters are also developed nations. Most pollution comes from industry, not individuals. As far as I'm aware you cannot choose what another industry does, because they have private rights. There is no 'but still', no one has a choice. https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis... https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/ https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-pe...
- read_if_gay_ 6y ago
  Thank you for bringing some actual data. However, I think one has to question the accuracy of CO2 emissions data collected in developing nations [0]. That's not to say it's all pointless, just that I doubt they'll be keeping track of the emissions of that tire graveyard that accidentally burned down yesterday, for example. Or chemicals dumped into the environment by the local mining company. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in your second paragraph. Maybe you could elaborate? [0] https://e360.yale.edu/features/paris-conundrum-how-to-know-how-much-carbon-is-being-emitted https://e360.yale.edu/features/paris-conundrum-how-to-know-h...