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Mikko Hypponen is a very well-respected security researcher who participates quite actively in a group of highly qualified specialists on Twitter. Your implicat

Mikko Hypponen is a very well-respected security researcher who participates quite actively in a group of highly qualified specialists on Twitter. Your implication that everyone on Twitter is obsessed with the same bits of celebrity culture and whatnot is similar to saying that HN and TMZ are the same since they're both "websites".

Kylekramer 15y ago
It is great that he is a well respected researcher, but I will question him when he implies a site is a phishing site when it quite clearly isn't (I'm sorry, if Google employees really wanted GV numbers/PINs and Gmail addresses, they wouldn't start posting a Google Doc in support forums to get them [1]) on the basis of a "Twitter consensus". I just prefer my researchers to do some actual research, not go off half baked in a public forum. 1: Not to mention that the form in question has been used successfully for its intended purpose many times. http://smarterware.org/6437/how-to-transfer-google-voice-to-your-google-apps-account http://smarterware.org/6437/how-to-transfer-google-voice-to-...
- kylemaxwell 15y ago
  That may be, but the issue in that case has nothing to do with the specific forum used for the discussion.
  - Kylekramer 15y ago
    Why not? In this case, a Twitter consensus is not near sufficient evidence for the claim (especially once you see the actual consensus of 6 guys, one of whom disagrees and none of whom seem to be particularly well regarded researchers: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/spreads7.png http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/spreads7.png) While it is nice to claim all forums are equal, it just is not true. If he said a group of experts agreed and then linked to their tweets, I wouldn't cry foul. But just claiming a Twitter consensus is like me interviewing the first five people I saw in Times Square and calling it a day.
    - kylemaxwell 15y ago
      I guess I'm drawing the distinction here between venue and participants, much like presentation and content.
danilocampos 15y ago
Thanks. I couldn't muster anywhere near the same level of rational response to this. I have learned from you today and you have my gratitude.

Kylekramer 15y ago

It is great that he is a well respected researcher, but I will question him when he implies a site is a phishing site when it quite clearly isn't (I'm sorry, if Google employees really wanted GV numbers/PINs and Gmail addresses, they wouldn't start posting a Google Doc in support forums to get them [1]) on the basis of a "Twitter consensus". I just prefer my researchers to do some actual research, not go off half baked in a public forum. 1: Not to mention that the form in question has been used successfully for its intended purpose many times. http://smarterware.org/6437/how-to-transfer-google-voice-to-your-google-apps-account http://smarterware.org/6437/how-to-transfer-google-voice-to-...

kylemaxwell 15y ago
That may be, but the issue in that case has nothing to do with the specific forum used for the discussion.
- Kylekramer 15y ago
  Why not? In this case, a Twitter consensus is not near sufficient evidence for the claim (especially once you see the actual consensus of 6 guys, one of whom disagrees and none of whom seem to be particularly well regarded researchers: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/spreads7.png http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/spreads7.png) While it is nice to claim all forums are equal, it just is not true. If he said a group of experts agreed and then linked to their tweets, I wouldn't cry foul. But just claiming a Twitter consensus is like me interviewing the first five people I saw in Times Square and calling it a day.
  - kylemaxwell 15y ago
    I guess I'm drawing the distinction here between venue and participants, much like presentation and content.

danilocampos 15y ago

Thanks. I couldn't muster anywhere near the same level of rational response to this. I have learned from you today and you have my gratitude.