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> Off these 17 German reactors currently 13 are off the grid. A significant number were pulled off the grid in the wake of Fukushima. So while it's true they h

by seabee 15y ago

> Off these 17 German reactors currently 13 are off the grid. A significant number were pulled off the grid in the wake of Fukushima. So while it's true they had an overcapacity, it's not the case anymore. [1] How quickly can renewables close that gap? And does renewables provide for cheap electricity? If you're importing based on price, it's not coming from wind or solar. So where exactly is the environmental benefit, other than to make it someone else's problem (i.e. getting France to hide away more spent fuel rods)? Being an exporter with renewables is definitely a matter of 'when'. It's foolish to pretend the years between now and then don't exist, they have consequences too. [1] http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Germany-net-energy-importer-apf-1665949417.html?x=0 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Germany-net-energy-importer-ap...

lispm 15y ago
You are aware that several of the nuclear power plants will be brought online again? You are also aware that the phase out time is TEN years? In the last ten years we have added ten percent renewable energy as a new source and jump started a new industry with several hundred thousand jobs. I'm pretty sure that in ten years we can build new capacity to replace the remaining nuclear reactors. Actually there are several reports from German Universities and research institutions which all agree that this is possible. What you cite from Yahoo is old news. The Nuclear Industry was happily publishing this. But the case is that a) some of the nuclear power plants will be brought back, so there is no power shortage. The phase out will be done in about ten years. b) Germany always imports nuclear power, since there is a free energy market. Germany also exports all kinds of electricity (nuclear, coal, wind, ...). c) the providers of Nuclear power fear their loss of market power. They are large monopolists which try to prevent competition. There are many smaller providers waiting with their investments, keen to replace them where and when possible.

by seabee 15y ago

lispm 15y ago

You are aware that several of the nuclear power plants will be brought online again? You are also aware that the phase out time is TEN years? In the last ten years we have added ten percent renewable energy as a new source and jump started a new industry with several hundred thousand jobs. I'm pretty sure that in ten years we can build new capacity to replace the remaining nuclear reactors. Actually there are several reports from German Universities and research institutions which all agree that this is possible. What you cite from Yahoo is old news. The Nuclear Industry was happily publishing this. But the case is that a) some of the nuclear power plants will be brought back, so there is no power shortage. The phase out will be done in about ten years. b) Germany always imports nuclear power, since there is a free energy market. Germany also exports all kinds of electricity (nuclear, coal, wind, ...). c) the providers of Nuclear power fear their loss of market power. They are large monopolists which try to prevent competition. There are many smaller providers waiting with their investments, keen to replace them where and when possible.