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Nvidia literally throws you in a VM, where you have to log into Steam and use it as a computer. You & I may be gamers or computer users, but normal people don't

Nvidia literally throws you in a VM, where you have to log into Steam and use it as a computer. You & I may be gamers or computer users, but normal people don't want to deal with that shit. It also again assumed you have a Steam/Epic account to begin, or else that's another layer you have to deal with. With Stadia, you press one button and you're in the game 5s later. It also has deep integration, allowing friends list, voice chat, game invites, achievements, etc. Nvidia relies on Steam for those (Epic doesn't have most of it). That's just the surface level integration too. By having games integrate with Stadia's API, they can do other kinds of optimizations, like having simple optimized options, compares to Nvidia where you have to mess around with the settings like on PC. If you've used both, it's night and day experience. Again obviously for you and me, we're used to PC gaming, but for average people wanting to play some AAA game, GFN is a complete no-go.

drusepth 6y ago
I've silently listened on Discord to two different friends trying to get GFN working (for Among Us) in the past couple weeks. It's crazy how hard it can apparently be to install and set up for the average person.
- potatoman22 6y ago
  I just downloaded it, booted it up, signed in, and it launched my game.
  - drusepth 6y ago
    I just asked one of the friends what his problem was and he said that it was just the servers that were down, so I guess it wasn't too hard to set up for him after all.
MaxBarraclough 6y ago
> you have to log into Steam and use it as a computer If I recall correctly, you have to do this once, and it can save your log-in details for next time. > You & I may be gamers or computer users, but normal people don't want to deal with that shit. Gamers are their target audience. > By having games integrate with Stadia's API, they can do other kinds of optimizations, like having simple optimized options, compares to Nvidia where you have to mess around with the settings like on PC. That's true. I've found it's sometimes necessary to change the settings, as the default graphical settings are far below what the hardware is capable of handling. I'm sure nVidia could do something about that if they had the will to.
- ehsankia 6y ago
  > Gamers are their target audience. I don't quite agree on that one. If you already have a 2000$ gaming PC with a huge Steam catalog, Stadia is most definitely not targeting you. Nvidia is. Stadia is targeting people who want to play the latest AAA game or EA sports game, without having to invest in a $500 console or $1000 PC. You just play $60 and you're good to go on your laptop you use for Facebook, or spend $100 to play on your TV. They're trying to expand the gaming pie, trying to get all those people who will play games on their phones because it's easy and low friction, but won't invest in high friction setups like a gaming PC. At least that's my take on it.
  - MaxBarraclough 6y ago
    > I don't quite agree on that one. If you already have a 2000$ gaming PC with a huge Steam catalog, Stadia is most definitely not targeting you. Nvidia is. I don't think so. If you have the hardware, there's little reason not to run it locally. They're both going after the same market, but with different sales models. There's probably never going to be a subscription that gives you access to all the latest titles.

drusepth 6y ago

I've silently listened on Discord to two different friends trying to get GFN working (for Among Us) in the past couple weeks. It's crazy how hard it can apparently be to install and set up for the average person.

potatoman22 6y ago
I just downloaded it, booted it up, signed in, and it launched my game.
- drusepth 6y ago
  I just asked one of the friends what his problem was and he said that it was just the servers that were down, so I guess it wasn't too hard to set up for him after all.

MaxBarraclough 6y ago

> you have to log into Steam and use it as a computer If I recall correctly, you have to do this once, and it can save your log-in details for next time. > You & I may be gamers or computer users, but normal people don't want to deal with that shit. Gamers are their target audience. > By having games integrate with Stadia's API, they can do other kinds of optimizations, like having simple optimized options, compares to Nvidia where you have to mess around with the settings like on PC. That's true. I've found it's sometimes necessary to change the settings, as the default graphical settings are far below what the hardware is capable of handling. I'm sure nVidia could do something about that if they had the will to.

ehsankia 6y ago
> Gamers are their target audience. I don't quite agree on that one. If you already have a 2000$ gaming PC with a huge Steam catalog, Stadia is most definitely not targeting you. Nvidia is. Stadia is targeting people who want to play the latest AAA game or EA sports game, without having to invest in a $500 console or $1000 PC. You just play $60 and you're good to go on your laptop you use for Facebook, or spend $100 to play on your TV. They're trying to expand the gaming pie, trying to get all those people who will play games on their phones because it's easy and low friction, but won't invest in high friction setups like a gaming PC. At least that's my take on it.
- MaxBarraclough 6y ago
  > I don't quite agree on that one. If you already have a 2000$ gaming PC with a huge Steam catalog, Stadia is most definitely not targeting you. Nvidia is. I don't think so. If you have the hardware, there's little reason not to run it locally. They're both going after the same market, but with different sales models. There's probably never going to be a subscription that gives you access to all the latest titles.