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> especially for women, who are severely under-represented in construction and heavy industry Seems an odd thing to mention/focus on. Any specific reason for i

> especially for women, who are severely under-represented in construction and heavy industry Seems an odd thing to mention/focus on. Any specific reason for including this?

lazide 6y ago
Because women have dramatically higher fracture rates due to osteoporosis (and lower bone mineral density in general) [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11063899/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11063899/], the only known way (outside of some, last I heard, unproven clinical vibration treatments) to get stronger bones is to lift heavy things while having proper nutrition, and about the only occupational exposure you're going to get to lifting heavy things on a regular basis is those industries? At least as of 2007 those industries (and related industries) were 78% male [https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2007/06/art2full.pdf https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2007/06/art2full.pdf] There is also a similar visible skew in the power lifting, olympic lifting, or weight lifting communities for those into it recreationally. It used to be we all spent more time lifting heavy things. However, post WW2 that has rapidly declined. So one way to reduce or reverse this is if we ALL lifted heavy things more often. From a risk reduction perspective, that seems to be especially valuable for women?
- thaumasiotes 6y ago
  > So one way to reduce or reverse this is if we ALL lifted heavy things more often. From a risk reduction perspective, that seems to be especially valuable for women? Depends; women might be much more prone to injury from lifting heavy things.
  - hammock 6y ago
    Why do you suggest that?
  - steve_adams_86 6y ago
    A lot of women I’ve lifted with were proportionately stronger than most men I’ve lifted with, injured less often, and more capable of lifting heavy things than I was. The person who taught me to deadlift was a ~140lb woman who could pull 330lb off the floor with her baby strapped to her. She was exceptional, but anecdotally I’d say women can lift whatever they want without any added risk of injury over male counterparts.
    - thaumasiotes 6y ago
      You're seeing the statistical problem of "restriction of range". Weightlifting women are one of the worst possible classes to try to generalize weightlifting ability from.

> especially for women, who are severely under-represented in construction and heavy industry Seems an odd thing to mention/focus on. Any specific reason for including this?

lazide 6y ago

Because women have dramatically higher fracture rates due to osteoporosis (and lower bone mineral density in general) [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11063899/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11063899/], the only known way (outside of some, last I heard, unproven clinical vibration treatments) to get stronger bones is to lift heavy things while having proper nutrition, and about the only occupational exposure you're going to get to lifting heavy things on a regular basis is those industries? At least as of 2007 those industries (and related industries) were 78% male [https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2007/06/art2full.pdf https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2007/06/art2full.pdf] There is also a similar visible skew in the power lifting, olympic lifting, or weight lifting communities for those into it recreationally. It used to be we all spent more time lifting heavy things. However, post WW2 that has rapidly declined. So one way to reduce or reverse this is if we ALL lifted heavy things more often. From a risk reduction perspective, that seems to be especially valuable for women?

thaumasiotes 6y ago
> So one way to reduce or reverse this is if we ALL lifted heavy things more often. From a risk reduction perspective, that seems to be especially valuable for women? Depends; women might be much more prone to injury from lifting heavy things.
- hammock 6y ago
  Why do you suggest that?
- steve_adams_86 6y ago
  A lot of women I’ve lifted with were proportionately stronger than most men I’ve lifted with, injured less often, and more capable of lifting heavy things than I was. The person who taught me to deadlift was a ~140lb woman who could pull 330lb off the floor with her baby strapped to her. She was exceptional, but anecdotally I’d say women can lift whatever they want without any added risk of injury over male counterparts.
  - thaumasiotes 6y ago
    You're seeing the statistical problem of "restriction of range". Weightlifting women are one of the worst possible classes to try to generalize weightlifting ability from.