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I do agree that it can cause harm long term. It's the same with all medications, that's why I pay doctors to prescribe medication and monitor my health while ta

I do agree that it can cause harm long term. It's the same with all medications, that's why I pay doctors to prescribe medication and monitor my health while taking it. I already have physicals every six months because of another condition. With the Adderall, I get blood pressure taken monthly and an EKG every three months. The goal of almost any medication is to create a stop gap to create or find non-medication solutions. Without Adderall, I can't focus on creating systems and tools to help me stay on track. Demonizing Adderall isn't helping anyone. No one should be afraid of taking a medication that will change their life for the better. If someone goes through normal channels and gets properly prescribed it, they should be treated no different than any other ailment.

sneak 6y ago
I didn't demonize anything, and if you think I did, you should probably re-read my comment dispassionately and stop trying to do battle on the internet. Your comment opens with: > Get diagnosed and get a low-dose of meds. Immediately suggesting that someone seek a somewhat dangerous medication as a solution, without qualification, is an extreme and dangerous view. "You have ADD so you should try low doses of speed!" is not wisdom. There is a reason that these are prescribed by doctors, and monitored.
- madamelic 6y ago
  One requires getting diagnosed to get medication. I am not advocating buying Adderall from a dealer. I am encouraging people not to be afraid to pursue the medication route because it is so demonized. Medication helps a lot. You could struggle with no medication, trying to build a system to help yourself, possibly fail and never be who you can be or you can seek out professional help (potentially with medication) and begin building support today and have a good shot. --- Would you say the same if I encouraged a depressed person to do their best to get diagnosed and get on 'anti-depressants'? I am doubtful. We have invented medication for a reason. People go to decades of med school for a reason. Medical professionals know what they are doing and are very upfront about it not being a panacea and needing to still work on non-medication solutions (as with any medication). I will admit my first sentence ("Get diagnosed and get a low-dose of meds") was too strong to start with.
  - sneak 6y ago
    > Would you say the same if I encouraged a depressed person to do their best to get diagnosed and get on 'anti-depressants'? I am doubtful. Don't be: many studies have shown CBT to be equally as effective for depression (for most people) as medication. If you are equally likely to cure your issues with a book on CBT versus a pill, that is something you should consider, even if you do end up deciding for the pill. I encourage people to evaluate the costs and benefits of ALL their options before seeking any specific treatment for issues that involve neurochemistry. My entire thrust is "medication is not a panacea and you should not bias toward using it, over any other option, as a solution". For some it may be the best choice. For many it is not. Don't bias toward it (as you advocate). Evaluate, don't just go get pills because some random person on the internet said it worked for them that one time. If you put the wrong thing in your body, you can fuck yourself up for a very long time. I am speaking from direct personal experience.
    - TeaDrunk 6y ago
      > Don't be: many studies have shown CBT to be equally as effective for depression (for most people) as medication But this is not the case for ADHD. ADHD has one of if not the strongest case where there is a direct curative effect of medication.
    - pseudalopex 6y ago
      Many studies have shown therapy and medication work better together.

sneak 6y ago

I didn't demonize anything, and if you think I did, you should probably re-read my comment dispassionately and stop trying to do battle on the internet. Your comment opens with: > Get diagnosed and get a low-dose of meds. Immediately suggesting that someone seek a somewhat dangerous medication as a solution, without qualification, is an extreme and dangerous view. "You have ADD so you should try low doses of speed!" is not wisdom. There is a reason that these are prescribed by doctors, and monitored.

madamelic 6y ago
One requires getting diagnosed to get medication. I am not advocating buying Adderall from a dealer. I am encouraging people not to be afraid to pursue the medication route because it is so demonized. Medication helps a lot. You could struggle with no medication, trying to build a system to help yourself, possibly fail and never be who you can be or you can seek out professional help (potentially with medication) and begin building support today and have a good shot. --- Would you say the same if I encouraged a depressed person to do their best to get diagnosed and get on 'anti-depressants'? I am doubtful. We have invented medication for a reason. People go to decades of med school for a reason. Medical professionals know what they are doing and are very upfront about it not being a panacea and needing to still work on non-medication solutions (as with any medication). I will admit my first sentence ("Get diagnosed and get a low-dose of meds") was too strong to start with.
- sneak 6y ago
  > Would you say the same if I encouraged a depressed person to do their best to get diagnosed and get on 'anti-depressants'? I am doubtful. Don't be: many studies have shown CBT to be equally as effective for depression (for most people) as medication. If you are equally likely to cure your issues with a book on CBT versus a pill, that is something you should consider, even if you do end up deciding for the pill. I encourage people to evaluate the costs and benefits of ALL their options before seeking any specific treatment for issues that involve neurochemistry. My entire thrust is "medication is not a panacea and you should not bias toward using it, over any other option, as a solution". For some it may be the best choice. For many it is not. Don't bias toward it (as you advocate). Evaluate, don't just go get pills because some random person on the internet said it worked for them that one time. If you put the wrong thing in your body, you can fuck yourself up for a very long time. I am speaking from direct personal experience.
  - TeaDrunk 6y ago
    > Don't be: many studies have shown CBT to be equally as effective for depression (for most people) as medication But this is not the case for ADHD. ADHD has one of if not the strongest case where there is a direct curative effect of medication.
  - pseudalopex 6y ago
    Many studies have shown therapy and medication work better together.