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> As occurred in the spring, COVID-19 has become the leading cause of death in the United States (daily mortality rates for heart disease and cancer, which for

> As occurred in the spring, COVID-19 has become the leading cause of death in the United States (daily mortality rates for heart disease and cancer, which for decades have been the 2 leading causes of death, are approximately 1700 and 1600 deaths per day, respectively4).Dec 17, 2020 [0] How do you argue with statistics? Its leading cause of death. [0] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2774465 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2774465

giantg2 6y ago
"How do you argue with statistics?" Depends on the methodologies used and the conclusions drawn from the numbers. For example, the parent comment was claiming that the average 35 year old overestimates their chances of dying from covid. Your comment states that covid is the leading cause of death. I believe both statements are true. You can see some of this in a quote from the article you posted. "In contrast, for individuals younger than age 45 years, other causes of death, such as drug overdoses, suicide, transport accidents, cancer, and homicide exceeded those from COVID-19."
- pishpash 6y ago
  But that's with the measures taken.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    And that's a third point that isn't necessarily in agreement to the others, but doesn't refute them either. It's hard to say what it would look like for that age group (<45), or any other, without the current restrictions. Just to point it out in the age sub groups under 45 in the previously linked article, to become the leading cause of death in each one would require a 2x-15x increase in covid deaths. I'm not sure what that means for this conversation since my main point is that none of the numbers or arguments being thrown around in this comment chain directly relate to each other - there seem to be 2 or 3 separate arguments that are only tangentially related.

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> As occurred in the spring, COVID-19 has become the leading cause of death in the United States (daily mortality rates for heart disease and cancer, which for

by me_me_me 6y ago

giantg2 6y ago
"How do you argue with statistics?" Depends on the methodologies used and the conclusions drawn from the numbers. For example, the parent comment was claiming that the average 35 year old overestimates their chances of dying from covid. Your comment states that covid is the leading cause of death. I believe both statements are true. You can see some of this in a quote from the article you posted. "In contrast, for individuals younger than age 45 years, other causes of death, such as drug overdoses, suicide, transport accidents, cancer, and homicide exceeded those from COVID-19."
- pishpash 6y ago
  But that's with the measures taken.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    And that's a third point that isn't necessarily in agreement to the others, but doesn't refute them either. It's hard to say what it would look like for that age group (<45), or any other, without the current restrictions. Just to point it out in the age sub groups under 45 in the previously linked article, to become the leading cause of death in each one would require a 2x-15x increase in covid deaths. I'm not sure what that means for this conversation since my main point is that none of the numbers or arguments being thrown around in this comment chain directly relate to each other - there seem to be 2 or 3 separate arguments that are only tangentially related.