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It is currently probably way better (USA vs. China). Especially when seen from Europe (or USA)... looking at it from the point of view of a South-American citiz

It is currently probably way better (USA vs. China). Especially when seen from Europe (or USA)... looking at it from the point of view of a South-American citizen probably don't give the same result... and it's not self-hate, just history

cheph 6y ago
If China was so much better why do people from South America risk life and limb to get to the fascist, racist white supremacist hellhole that is USA (where cops hunt people of color like dogs on the street and throw the ones they don't murder in cold blood in jail to use as slave labour) instead of just going to China?
- meiraleal 6y ago
  Maybe because China is ~15,000km away while the US is ~5,000
leesalminen 6y ago
In Chile, there has been a growing anti-China sentiment over the past several years as they began dominating the retail sector, pushing out many locals’ jobs.
- enriquto 6y ago
  As opposed to the USA for, you know, actually staging a military coup in there?
  - leesalminen 6y ago
    Yes, absolutely. I’m an American who lived in Chile. In that time I received animosity from exactly 2 people. The current rhetoric against China is much more prevalent, perhaps 40% of people. I think it has to do with the fact that the USA issues were 2 generations ago while the China issues are happening now. Also, most people understand that the decisions made by ones’ government are not controlled by the people. People don’t have any control over what their politicians do. This is a globally understood truth.
    - enriquto 6y ago
      > Also, most people understand that the decisions made by ones’ government are not controlled by the people. People don’t have any control over what their politicians do. This is a globally understood truth. I think that both of these problems are direct consequences of the military coup. China's ability to have such a big influence the Chilean market is a direct consequence of the savage capitalist system installed by the Chicago boys. After all, it's a free market, isn't it? Regarding "People don’t have any control over what their politicians do"... well, that's a capitalist representative democracy for you! It is like that precisely by design, not by accident.

cheph 6y ago

If China was so much better why do people from South America risk life and limb to get to the fascist, racist white supremacist hellhole that is USA (where cops hunt people of color like dogs on the street and throw the ones they don't murder in cold blood in jail to use as slave labour) instead of just going to China?

meiraleal 6y ago
Maybe because China is ~15,000km away while the US is ~5,000

leesalminen 6y ago

In Chile, there has been a growing anti-China sentiment over the past several years as they began dominating the retail sector, pushing out many locals’ jobs.

enriquto 6y ago
As opposed to the USA for, you know, actually staging a military coup in there?
- leesalminen 6y ago
  Yes, absolutely. I’m an American who lived in Chile. In that time I received animosity from exactly 2 people. The current rhetoric against China is much more prevalent, perhaps 40% of people. I think it has to do with the fact that the USA issues were 2 generations ago while the China issues are happening now. Also, most people understand that the decisions made by ones’ government are not controlled by the people. People don’t have any control over what their politicians do. This is a globally understood truth.
  - enriquto 6y ago
    > Also, most people understand that the decisions made by ones’ government are not controlled by the people. People don’t have any control over what their politicians do. This is a globally understood truth. I think that both of these problems are direct consequences of the military coup. China's ability to have such a big influence the Chilean market is a direct consequence of the savage capitalist system installed by the Chicago boys. After all, it's a free market, isn't it? Regarding "People don’t have any control over what their politicians do"... well, that's a capitalist representative democracy for you! It is like that precisely by design, not by accident.