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>about 2000€ a month, enough to pay for a students living expenses Just out of pure curiosity, where did you live/study that 2000 Euros are student living expe

>about 2000€ a month, enough to pay for a students living expenses Just out of pure curiosity, where did you live/study that 2000 Euros are student living expenses? In my neck of the woods in central-western Europe (Austria), 1000 Euros per month is already really good money for most students and 2000 is what you make as a junior full time employee in a good tech company.

Macha 6y ago
Student accommodation in some capitals is above €1000/month if you don't opt for a shared room
cfontes 6y ago
Try Amsterdam, for example. €1000 is your rent.
- heeen2 6y ago
  For a room or a whole apartment?
  - jack_pp 6y ago
    Rooms range from 500 to 800 in amsterdam, I just checked the facebook group and the first post is student housing available for 317 euros.
- kergonath 6y ago
  The usual course of action is flat sharing. Rent is then a bit more reasonable. In London you could find rooms from a few hundred quid pcm, then depending on location the sky is the limit. That was the most expensive city in Europe, pre-Brexit.
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andix 6y ago
Vienna for example. Although it is possible to survive with around 700-900€ per month, eat, live and study. But if you also want to go out, go to restaurants/bars regularly and live in a nice place (not a shared dorm room), 1500-2000€ are way better.
- ChuckNorris89 6y ago
  I think we have two very distinct student lives in mind: The one I know most students have, is living very frugally, cooking at home, counting every penny to not go into more debt, studying hard to get a head start in life and partying hard on a budget, mostly house parties with booze bought from the supermarket with the occasional club or restaurant outing being a treat. The other one is the Instagram lifestyle student, travelling to fancy places, practicing expensive sports and hobbies, eating out a lot, going bars and clubbing all the time. That's not your typical student, more like the 1%-er. Living alone in a non-shared apartment is already a huge luxury for most students unless you come from a well-off family.
  - parasubvert 6y ago
    1000-2000 a month is hardly “jet setting” and has nothing to do with instagram. We are talking the difference between living in a shared accommodation and maybe having a small apartment, maybe having a used car, etc. Plenty of students get bankrolled by a combination of scholarships, their parents, and loans, and have for decades. There’s nothing wrong with it (or with going the frugal route either). Edit: To live in dorm 25 years ago in a standard Canadian university (for me) it cost $500/month plus another $500 a month in mandatory food card. That’s equivalent to 650 euros. That’s plus utilities, off campus food and drink, computer, recreation, and transportation, probably another 100-150 euros. My family was hardly rich (school teacher and truck driver) and helped out, I worked part time, and took out loans. Things are more expensive now.
    - jiofih 6y ago
      As the other comment mentioned, 2k/month is a starter salary in the nordics. It is near instagram-lifestyle money in Portugal, Spain and most of the eastern EU for a young single person. A student having their own apartment (and a car??) is already a luxury 99% of the world will never experience.
fergie 6y ago
If you are studying at a decent English university then you are talking €25000 a year just in accommodation and tuition fess.
bryanrasmussen 6y ago
I would think 2000 euro in Denmark would be about a student's living expenses.
- kawsper 6y ago
  I lived on student pay alone and used student housing, students today get around 849.79 EUR (before taxes) from the government, it was a bit lower back then (but I don't know about inflation and currency conversion).
  - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
    I guess I'm one of those folks who grows up and grows out of touch with how much money other people actually have. damn.
probably_wrong 6y ago
Assuming this is after taxes? As a PhD student in Germany my monthly net salary oscilated roughly between 1100€ at its lowest and 1600€ at its highest. That was enough for me not to need any roomates and even save a bit for a yearly vacation.
archi42 6y ago
Depends on the city and the student. E.g. Munich is known to be quite expensive. 2000 Euro would probably still be comfortable there, but 1000 Euro would probably require quite some frugality. At my alma mater (SW Germany) you could live on 450 Euro with the same frugality. OTOH a friend (living in the same dorm!) burned through 2500 Euro a month, that's until his parents started to expect some progress after a few years.
yarcob 6y ago
It was revenue of 2000€, I still had to pay taxes, social security, etc. But yes, it was still more than enough. I lived on around 600€ side job + 200€ government stipend before I made my app.
thekingofravens 6y ago
Not an 1:1 comparison, but but in Seattle (US) if you could convert your 2000€ a month to the roughly 2400$ US it is you would still have at least one roommate to be able to pay rent. Different story in the US, as kids tend to leave home often due to a much lower cultural focus on the family. Individualism is obsessed over here.

Macha 6y ago

Student accommodation in some capitals is above €1000/month if you don't opt for a shared room

cfontes 6y ago

Try Amsterdam, for example. €1000 is your rent.

heeen2 6y ago
For a room or a whole apartment?
- jack_pp 6y ago
  Rooms range from 500 to 800 in amsterdam, I just checked the facebook group and the first post is student housing available for 317 euros.
kergonath 6y ago
The usual course of action is flat sharing. Rent is then a bit more reasonable. In London you could find rooms from a few hundred quid pcm, then depending on location the sky is the limit. That was the most expensive city in Europe, pre-Brexit.
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andix 6y ago

Vienna for example. Although it is possible to survive with around 700-900€ per month, eat, live and study. But if you also want to go out, go to restaurants/bars regularly and live in a nice place (not a shared dorm room), 1500-2000€ are way better.

ChuckNorris89 6y ago
I think we have two very distinct student lives in mind: The one I know most students have, is living very frugally, cooking at home, counting every penny to not go into more debt, studying hard to get a head start in life and partying hard on a budget, mostly house parties with booze bought from the supermarket with the occasional club or restaurant outing being a treat. The other one is the Instagram lifestyle student, travelling to fancy places, practicing expensive sports and hobbies, eating out a lot, going bars and clubbing all the time. That's not your typical student, more like the 1%-er. Living alone in a non-shared apartment is already a huge luxury for most students unless you come from a well-off family.
- parasubvert 6y ago
  1000-2000 a month is hardly “jet setting” and has nothing to do with instagram. We are talking the difference between living in a shared accommodation and maybe having a small apartment, maybe having a used car, etc. Plenty of students get bankrolled by a combination of scholarships, their parents, and loans, and have for decades. There’s nothing wrong with it (or with going the frugal route either). Edit: To live in dorm 25 years ago in a standard Canadian university (for me) it cost $500/month plus another $500 a month in mandatory food card. That’s equivalent to 650 euros. That’s plus utilities, off campus food and drink, computer, recreation, and transportation, probably another 100-150 euros. My family was hardly rich (school teacher and truck driver) and helped out, I worked part time, and took out loans. Things are more expensive now.
  - jiofih 6y ago
    As the other comment mentioned, 2k/month is a starter salary in the nordics. It is near instagram-lifestyle money in Portugal, Spain and most of the eastern EU for a young single person. A student having their own apartment (and a car??) is already a luxury 99% of the world will never experience.

fergie 6y ago

If you are studying at a decent English university then you are talking €25000 a year just in accommodation and tuition fess.

bryanrasmussen 6y ago

I would think 2000 euro in Denmark would be about a student's living expenses.

kawsper 6y ago
I lived on student pay alone and used student housing, students today get around 849.79 EUR (before taxes) from the government, it was a bit lower back then (but I don't know about inflation and currency conversion).
- bryanrasmussen 6y ago
  I guess I'm one of those folks who grows up and grows out of touch with how much money other people actually have. damn.

probably_wrong 6y ago

Assuming this is after taxes? As a PhD student in Germany my monthly net salary oscilated roughly between 1100€ at its lowest and 1600€ at its highest. That was enough for me not to need any roomates and even save a bit for a yearly vacation.

archi42 6y ago

Depends on the city and the student. E.g. Munich is known to be quite expensive. 2000 Euro would probably still be comfortable there, but 1000 Euro would probably require quite some frugality. At my alma mater (SW Germany) you could live on 450 Euro with the same frugality. OTOH a friend (living in the same dorm!) burned through 2500 Euro a month, that's until his parents started to expect some progress after a few years.

yarcob 6y ago

It was revenue of 2000€, I still had to pay taxes, social security, etc. But yes, it was still more than enough. I lived on around 600€ side job + 200€ government stipend before I made my app.

thekingofravens 6y ago

Not an 1:1 comparison, but but in Seattle (US) if you could convert your 2000€ a month to the roughly 2400$ US it is you would still have at least one roommate to be able to pay rent. Different story in the US, as kids tend to leave home often due to a much lower cultural focus on the family. Individualism is obsessed over here.