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If you really want one, then Rolex are not that expensive. Get a certified second hand Rolex. But there are so many affordable Swiss watch brands. My father bou

If you really want one, then Rolex are not that expensive. Get a certified second hand Rolex. But there are so many affordable Swiss watch brands. My father bought me a Certina for 200USD 15 years ago. My girlfriend bought me an automatic Tissot. The cheapest automatic Tissot is around 700USD new and you can get second hand options for 100 USD.

Immortal333 6y ago
>>> The cheapest automatic Tissot is around 700USD. Is the engineering/logistics behind Mechanical watches really costlier than Oneplus phones ?
- JohnBooty 6y ago
  Is the engineering/logistics behind Mechanical watches really costlier than Oneplus phones ? Yes and no, right? Altogether, there are probably orders of magnitude more engineering involved in a mobile phone. But a lot of the "hard stuff" when it comes to a OnePlus phone is not done by them: they are not running their own chip foundries, designing their own silicon, researching their own battery tech, mining their own rare earth elements for the batteries, writing their own kernel from scratch, etc. Which is not to say I personally find a Tissot to be worth $700, relative to other watches. But! This stuff is all just "functional jewelry" anyway; even a Rolex doesn't keep time as well as a $15 quartz Casio. Could a Tissot provide $700 of happiness to somebody else, who isn't me? Maybe! Heck, I'm not even familiar with their whole catalog, perhaps they have a bunch of watches I'd love. It's also worth noting you can get a perfectly nice mechanical watch from Seiko or Orient for $100-$500USD. For me, that starts to approach some kind of reasonable value. Not on purely functional terms, but as something I will wear and enjoy for hundreds and possibly thousands of hours? I can't justify it on logical terms, but there are worse ways to spend disposable income. Barring disaster a watch will also work for decades, which is not likely to provide much joy to the owner beyond five years or so. (In fact if you don't mind buying from non-authorized dealers you can actually get a Tissot for cheap as well - I've seen them for not much over $100)
Veen 6y ago
> The cheapest automatic Tissot is around 700USD I'd like to second your Tissot recommendation. They're excellent quality for the price. I'm not a watch collector, but I am very fond of my Tissot Visodate, which replaced an Apple Watch that I found to be largely useless and quite annoying to wear.
stevekemp 6y ago
If you want a nice reliable, automatic, watch you don't even need a swiss maker. There are a great number of manufacturers with a long histories of watch-making, for example Vostok from Russian, and Laco from Germany. (I have a couple of Vostok "dive" watches, which cost about €60 each, as well as a nice Laco pilot-watch for around €300). You could even go Japanese with companies like Orient.
- JohnBooty 6y ago
  Hahaha those Vostoks look like so much fun. I think I might ask for one for my birthday.

Immortal333 6y ago

>>> The cheapest automatic Tissot is around 700USD. Is the engineering/logistics behind Mechanical watches really costlier than Oneplus phones ?

JohnBooty 6y ago
Is the engineering/logistics behind Mechanical watches really costlier than Oneplus phones ? Yes and no, right? Altogether, there are probably orders of magnitude more engineering involved in a mobile phone. But a lot of the "hard stuff" when it comes to a OnePlus phone is not done by them: they are not running their own chip foundries, designing their own silicon, researching their own battery tech, mining their own rare earth elements for the batteries, writing their own kernel from scratch, etc. Which is not to say I personally find a Tissot to be worth $700, relative to other watches. But! This stuff is all just "functional jewelry" anyway; even a Rolex doesn't keep time as well as a $15 quartz Casio. Could a Tissot provide $700 of happiness to somebody else, who isn't me? Maybe! Heck, I'm not even familiar with their whole catalog, perhaps they have a bunch of watches I'd love. It's also worth noting you can get a perfectly nice mechanical watch from Seiko or Orient for $100-$500USD. For me, that starts to approach some kind of reasonable value. Not on purely functional terms, but as something I will wear and enjoy for hundreds and possibly thousands of hours? I can't justify it on logical terms, but there are worse ways to spend disposable income. Barring disaster a watch will also work for decades, which is not likely to provide much joy to the owner beyond five years or so. (In fact if you don't mind buying from non-authorized dealers you can actually get a Tissot for cheap as well - I've seen them for not much over $100)

Veen 6y ago

> The cheapest automatic Tissot is around 700USD I'd like to second your Tissot recommendation. They're excellent quality for the price. I'm not a watch collector, but I am very fond of my Tissot Visodate, which replaced an Apple Watch that I found to be largely useless and quite annoying to wear.

stevekemp 6y ago

If you want a nice reliable, automatic, watch you don't even need a swiss maker. There are a great number of manufacturers with a long histories of watch-making, for example Vostok from Russian, and Laco from Germany. (I have a couple of Vostok "dive" watches, which cost about €60 each, as well as a nice Laco pilot-watch for around €300). You could even go Japanese with companies like Orient.

JohnBooty 6y ago
Hahaha those Vostoks look like so much fun. I think I might ask for one for my birthday.