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I feel like Intel is being dismissed much too quickly. I purchased 2 laptops in the last few months at about the same price, one having the latest-gen-available
by sempron64 6y ago
I feel like Intel is being dismissed much too quickly. I purchased 2 laptops in the last few months at about the same price, one having the latest-gen-available Ryzen and one having the latest-gen Intel. Here is a benchmark comparison of the chips:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-1135G7-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4500U/m1286124vsm1052299 https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-1135G7-v...
The Zen 3 and M1 chips are unfairly being compared even in recent articles to 10th gen Intel chips when 11th gen is widely available. Considering there is an actual node change at the 11th gen it’s clear from the benchmarks that Intel has not actually fallen behind AMD —- they are neck-and-neck.
Considering the lack of disparity in benchmarks, though I am a long-time AMD fan (see my tongue in cheek username), I still think Intel is the better choice at this time for laptops. The reason is that the ACPI and general driver situation for Zen 2 and 3 is very bad. Power management and hibernation are totally unstable on Linux and Windows. I like my Zen 2 laptop for the better multithread capacity (slightly faster compile times!) but the Intel laptop is likely to last much better given that it will not destroy its own battery. The AMD machine discharges in a day even when hibernating, and in a matter of hours when sleeping.
Intel still has a chance to catch up. It all hinges on how fast they can move to 7nm. And given the “chip shortage” (i.e. limited capacity and likely yield/production issues at TSMC), Intel is well positioned to continue to dominate the market for quite a while by dint of having its own supply chain.
- Shorel 6y agoAbsolutely true in regards to Linux support, hibernation support and battery life in Ryzen laptops. For a desktop Ryzen sounds great. But for a laptop it has given me only frustration.
- kkaranth 6y ago> The AMD machine discharges in a day even when hibernating That isn't a CPU-related issue right? The CPU would be completely powered down when hibernating
- gambiting 6y agoThat's a firmware issue. I see the same problem in my i5-10300H equipped Legion 5.
- toastal 6y agoIn the high-end laptop space, OEMs still aren't putting out their best stuff with AMD (excluding ROG Zephyrus). If you want a premium build quality machine with a color accurate, wide gamut display (and Thunderbolt), you'll still be purchasing Intel in 2021 as many flagships were partner-designed with Intel.
- Veedrac 6y agoUserbenchmark is pretty overtly Intel biased, to the point even /r/Intel banned them. You should use... pretty much any other review, basically. You are still right that Intel mobile is still performance competitive if you don't care much about the core count gap.
- distances 6y agoDon't use UserBenchmark, they are worse than useless. You're better off guessing the numbers.
- pedrocr 6y ago> The Zen 3 and M1 chips are unfairly being compared even in recent articles to 10th gen Intel chips when 11th gen is widely available. If you do the opposite and compare Intel 11th gen to Zen2 the differences are stark: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-1135G7-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4500U-vs-Intel-i7-1185G7-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4600U-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-4800U/3830vs3702vs3793vs3725vs3721 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-1135G7-vs-AMD-... AMD is ~15% faster on the low-end and ~50% on the high-end. But as far as I can tell the actual comparison is Zen 2 with 10th gen in the same generation of laptops. For the Lenovo T14 for example this is the comparison between the high-end of Intel and the two AMD options: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-10610U-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-PRO-4650U-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-PRO-4750U/3738vs3766vs3740 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-10610U-vs-AMD-... It's ~80% faster to ~115% faster. Zen 3 will probably maintain a similar gap when the next generation comes out. The 11th gen Intel processors look fine but particularly at the high-end the 4 vs 8 core difference is huge.