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So what were his alternatives? That society be made up of loosely-connected hermits such as himself? If you're going to have anything resembling a community, y
by optimalsolver 6y ago
So what were his alternatives? That society be made up of loosely-connected hermits such as himself?
If you're going to have anything resembling a community, you're going to need strongly enforced norms (aka "oversocialization") that minimize internal strife and division. This is true for hunter-gatherer bands and continent-spanning civilizations.
- iujjkfjdkkdkf 6y agoAnti-social behavior is undesirable if everybody does it, but its also what makes a leader. Look at the discussion around CEOs having dark triad traits. We simultaneously know that we dont want most people to behave this way, but also gravitate towards those that do. I think there is a spectrum: on one end are sheep and cows where everyone is social and as a group they are dumb but plentiful. On the other end are tigers, where everyone is antisocial, everybody is an apex predator but as a species there aren't that many because they dont cooperate. And then there are humans, ants, maybe wolves, where there is a nice mix of conformity and leadership, social and antisocial, that lets us come up with new ideas, but then fall in line behind executing them. So yeah, society full of antisocials is pretty ineffective, but so is a society of conformists.
- devmunchies 6y agoyou don't need to be oversocialized or anti-social. You can be balanced. Being oversocialzed means you aren't taking any risks or being rebellious at all. Society needs some rebels if we want to break major milestones.