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> After his talk, He immediately drove back to Shenzhen, and his circle of trust began to disintegrate Sad to see how the West keep pushing it's agenda and val

by 1996 6y ago

> After his talk, He immediately drove back to Shenzhen, and his circle of trust began to disintegrate Sad to see how the West keep pushing it's agenda and values down the throat of other countries. Hopefully China will keep advancing science, while the West goes into another dark age due to its religions.

cat199 6y ago
> Hopefully China will keep advancing science, while the West goes into another dark age due to its religions. .. given this and the uighur thing, they certainly do seem to have a knack for atheist eugenics. Opium of the masses and the inevitable march of dialectical materialism, amirite?
- 1996 6y ago
  > Opium of the masses and the inevitable march of dialectical materialism, amirite? You have different values, good for you. Some of us prefer science and progress. You live in your country with your values, please do not export them on us and we will do the same. The rest of the world is free to opt in China generosity. I am sure one belt one road will help Africa more than all your charities and religious missions combined.
  - Cro_on 6y ago
    > Some of us prefer science and progress. This is a simplistic argument that can be used to justify practically anything so long as growth continues.
  - gameman144 6y ago
    > You live in your country with your values, please do not export them on us and we will do the same. This doesn't really work as an argument, though. If someone said "You believe murder is wrong, I don't, don't try to force your morality on me" to justify murder, most people wouldn't buy into that logic. Obviously not all cases are as clear-cut as that, but when it comes to ethical concerns, the attitude of "you do your thing, I'll do mine" doesn't really apply.
aaron695 6y ago
> Hopefully China will keep advancing science Except they seem to be fully kowtowing to the West. Like this case. Or even the reported - "China bans skyscrapers taller than 500 meters" Every student they send overseas to study is one more indoctrinated scientist.
proc0 6y ago
Science isn't linear, it's not really forwards or backwards. Cultural values drive scientific research, especially technology and application of research.

by 1996 6y ago

cat199 6y ago

> Hopefully China will keep advancing science, while the West goes into another dark age due to its religions. .. given this and the uighur thing, they certainly do seem to have a knack for atheist eugenics. Opium of the masses and the inevitable march of dialectical materialism, amirite?

1996 6y ago
> Opium of the masses and the inevitable march of dialectical materialism, amirite? You have different values, good for you. Some of us prefer science and progress. You live in your country with your values, please do not export them on us and we will do the same. The rest of the world is free to opt in China generosity. I am sure one belt one road will help Africa more than all your charities and religious missions combined.
- Cro_on 6y ago
  > Some of us prefer science and progress. This is a simplistic argument that can be used to justify practically anything so long as growth continues.
- gameman144 6y ago
  > You live in your country with your values, please do not export them on us and we will do the same. This doesn't really work as an argument, though. If someone said "You believe murder is wrong, I don't, don't try to force your morality on me" to justify murder, most people wouldn't buy into that logic. Obviously not all cases are as clear-cut as that, but when it comes to ethical concerns, the attitude of "you do your thing, I'll do mine" doesn't really apply.

aaron695 6y ago

> Hopefully China will keep advancing science Except they seem to be fully kowtowing to the West. Like this case. Or even the reported - "China bans skyscrapers taller than 500 meters" Every student they send overseas to study is one more indoctrinated scientist.

proc0 6y ago

Science isn't linear, it's not really forwards or backwards. Cultural values drive scientific research, especially technology and application of research.