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It’s worth saying Boise Aries is a top 5 city in the Americas by population, and has a long history of being very immigrant friendly. I wonder if there was som

by nip180 6y ago

It’s worth saying Boise Aries is a top 5 city in the Americas by population, and has a long history of being very immigrant friendly. I wonder if there was some tax evasion happening...

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ficklepickle 6y ago
*Buenos Aires No Idaho involved ;)
vinay427 6y ago
> Boise Aries is a top 5 city in the Americas Not to be confused with the far less populous and less famously immigrant-friendly Boise. On a more serious note, I'm curious what connection you see between immigration and tax evasion. Is Buenos Aires known for certain kinds of immigration?
- nostromo 6y ago
  I'm guessing you haven't actually been to Boise? It has a huge immigrant population. Lots of Latinos, but also folks from all over Asia and Europe to work at Micron. It also has an ever-growing number of Californian expats.
  - vinay427 6y ago
    Yes, I wasn't presuming otherwise, which is why I specified "less famously immigrant-friendly" instead of "less immigrant-friendly." I simply haven't heard as much about the immigration there even though I'm American, probably because Buenos Aires is a much larger city. EDIT: Also, in case my "on a more serious note" didn't make it explicitly clear, that entire sentence about Boise was a joke. EDIT 2: I might as well add that I looked this up [1], and Boise ranks 175th in immigration as a percentage of the metropolitan population or 101st as a percentage of cities, just among metropolitan areas (MSAs) or cities in the US. That's not exactly a "huge immigrant population" by my account. [1] https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-immigrant-population-metropolitan-area https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-...
    - rendall 6y ago
      I understood you were joking. And, as with any forum of smart, nerdy people, there is an inevitable percentage who will point out how some part of your joke does not fit with observable facts.
  - klyrs 6y ago
    I've spent a fair bit of time in Boise, as I have family there. The truth is more complicated than a word. The "city" is friendly in terms of favorable policies; the people who live there aren't uniformly friendly to immigrants. In the late 90s, my cousin was upset that his high school banned (iirc) jackboots and cuffed jeans, until he learned that the style he'd unwittingly adopted was equivalent to skinhead gang colors; the ban was a result of actual skinheads popularizing the style. Then, last June, the literal nazis marching downtown. Granted, it's much worse in Coeur D'Alene.
    - onlyrealcuzzo 6y ago
      What happened in Coeur D'Alene?
      - duskwuff 6y ago
        Former home of an Aryan Nations compound.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    Boise ranks #4 on "Percentage of population that's white" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_percentage_of_white_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...
    - vinay427 6y ago
      I'm a non-white non-immigrant in the US. They're not mutually exclusive. That's why I edited my sibling comment to include a source listing that Boise is also very low on the percentage of immigrants in the population, both in the city and metro area (MSA). https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us- https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-...
      - tyingq 6y ago
        Well, yes, but it's doubtful that "immigrant friendly" results in that kind of demographics (89% white). I understand it's a correlation, but...
- baybal2 6y ago
  Does immigration to South America is still a thing at all? For people besides Latinos. South American countries seem to have had so many false starts. The moment they have a few decades good run, and it seem the country is finally starting to take off they either have a revolution, putsch, junta, or a communist government.
  - eafer 6y ago
    I don't think you should get downvoted, it's a good question. I live in Buenos Aires, and there is definitely a general perception that the country is hopeless. But for some reason we do get a fair share of immigrants from more prosperous countries such as South Korea and China. There's also a lot of people coming in from Africa, mainly Senegal from what I've heard.
    - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
      China still has huge wealth disparity. So, while China might seem overall more prosperous than Argentina, Chinese emigrants are often from parts of the country with a standard of living below Argentina's.
      - bobthepanda 6y ago
        Yeah. Even with massive infrastructure investment you still hear stories like children climbing 800m on vines to go to school. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/27/europe/china-children-education-climb/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/27/europe/china-children-edu... And there are other reasons to move too, like air quality, a pressure cooker educational system, extremely high housing cost as a multiple of salary...
      - eafer 6y ago
        Sure, but there's plenty of starving people in Argentina as well, not all the country is as wealthy as Buenos Aires. So the question is, why do they come here instead of going to a bigger chinese city? My guess is that they already have a support network here. That's why many of them end up working in the same businesses, such as running small supermarkets.

by nip180 6y ago

It’s worth saying Boise Aries is a top 5 city in the Americas by population, and has a long history of being very immigrant friendly. I wonder if there was some tax evasion happening...

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ficklepickle 6y ago

*Buenos Aires No Idaho involved ;)

vinay427 6y ago

> Boise Aries is a top 5 city in the Americas Not to be confused with the far less populous and less famously immigrant-friendly Boise. On a more serious note, I'm curious what connection you see between immigration and tax evasion. Is Buenos Aires known for certain kinds of immigration?

nostromo 6y ago
I'm guessing you haven't actually been to Boise? It has a huge immigrant population. Lots of Latinos, but also folks from all over Asia and Europe to work at Micron. It also has an ever-growing number of Californian expats.
- vinay427 6y ago
  Yes, I wasn't presuming otherwise, which is why I specified "less famously immigrant-friendly" instead of "less immigrant-friendly." I simply haven't heard as much about the immigration there even though I'm American, probably because Buenos Aires is a much larger city. EDIT: Also, in case my "on a more serious note" didn't make it explicitly clear, that entire sentence about Boise was a joke. EDIT 2: I might as well add that I looked this up [1], and Boise ranks 175th in immigration as a percentage of the metropolitan population or 101st as a percentage of cities, just among metropolitan areas (MSAs) or cities in the US. That's not exactly a "huge immigrant population" by my account. [1] https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-immigrant-population-metropolitan-area https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-...
  - rendall 6y ago
    I understood you were joking. And, as with any forum of smart, nerdy people, there is an inevitable percentage who will point out how some part of your joke does not fit with observable facts.
- klyrs 6y ago
  I've spent a fair bit of time in Boise, as I have family there. The truth is more complicated than a word. The "city" is friendly in terms of favorable policies; the people who live there aren't uniformly friendly to immigrants. In the late 90s, my cousin was upset that his high school banned (iirc) jackboots and cuffed jeans, until he learned that the style he'd unwittingly adopted was equivalent to skinhead gang colors; the ban was a result of actual skinheads popularizing the style. Then, last June, the literal nazis marching downtown. Granted, it's much worse in Coeur D'Alene.
  - onlyrealcuzzo 6y ago
    What happened in Coeur D'Alene?
    - duskwuff 6y ago
      Former home of an Aryan Nations compound.
- tyingq 6y ago
  Boise ranks #4 on "Percentage of population that's white" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_percentage_of_white_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...
  - vinay427 6y ago
    I'm a non-white non-immigrant in the US. They're not mutually exclusive. That's why I edited my sibling comment to include a source listing that Boise is also very low on the percentage of immigrants in the population, both in the city and metro area (MSA). https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us- https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/us-...
    - tyingq 6y ago
      Well, yes, but it's doubtful that "immigrant friendly" results in that kind of demographics (89% white). I understand it's a correlation, but...
baybal2 6y ago
Does immigration to South America is still a thing at all? For people besides Latinos. South American countries seem to have had so many false starts. The moment they have a few decades good run, and it seem the country is finally starting to take off they either have a revolution, putsch, junta, or a communist government.
- eafer 6y ago
  I don't think you should get downvoted, it's a good question. I live in Buenos Aires, and there is definitely a general perception that the country is hopeless. But for some reason we do get a fair share of immigrants from more prosperous countries such as South Korea and China. There's also a lot of people coming in from Africa, mainly Senegal from what I've heard.
  - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
    China still has huge wealth disparity. So, while China might seem overall more prosperous than Argentina, Chinese emigrants are often from parts of the country with a standard of living below Argentina's.
    - bobthepanda 6y ago
      Yeah. Even with massive infrastructure investment you still hear stories like children climbing 800m on vines to go to school. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/27/europe/china-children-education-climb/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/27/europe/china-children-edu... And there are other reasons to move too, like air quality, a pressure cooker educational system, extremely high housing cost as a multiple of salary...
    - eafer 6y ago
      Sure, but there's plenty of starving people in Argentina as well, not all the country is as wealthy as Buenos Aires. So the question is, why do they come here instead of going to a bigger chinese city? My guess is that they already have a support network here. That's why many of them end up working in the same businesses, such as running small supermarkets.