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>I am not following the argument. Are the UK government under any obligation to disclose that to EU? I don't think I get the question... is a country obliged t

>I am not following the argument. Are the UK government under any obligation to disclose that to EU? I don't think I get the question... is a country obliged to say they won't export something to other country? I guess so, how the hell is the other country supposed to know? Because that's literally what Europe is saying: get the missing stock somewhere else, because there are nothing stopping AZ from doing it. >Let just say AZ demand a price increase for moving stock from UK, then what? When the contract for that price was signed, even though it did not explicitly state from which plant, the price are considered as a factor for production location. Hence the best effort. Morale issues aside this is no different to literally all supply chain in other industry. Well AZ is the one that told 2 days ago that it won't fulfill a order of 100 million doses due to March, 30-60 days away, by 70 million, so I guess they are the ones that should figure out that fuck up, if they have to do it at loss or if they have to ask more for it. They only figured out 2 days ago they will slip a order by 70%, and hide behind their "best effort"? They had be preparing this shipment since at October 2020, at best November 2020 - and only now they figure out they will miss out on it? Again, something doesn't add up. The EU could have done a lot more if they knew they couldn't have fulfilled this order.

ksec 6y ago
>I don't think I get the question... is a country obliged to say they won't export something to other country? I guess so, how the hell is the other country supposed to know? Again, why should they export it? When the whole UK site was paid and set up by UK government before it was handed to AZ for further development. There are no obligations from AZ to fulfil that order from another plant. It is the same with Silicon Wafer, Foods, Metals. If you want something specific, production has to be planned ahead in advance. >Well AZ is the one that told 2 days ago that it won't fulfill a order of 100 million doses due to March Which is absolutely normal if their yield aren't up to standard. It is new, sometimes things dont work. I dont have any experience with Vaccine Production but these things takes time. Supply Chain and Production basics and fundamentals are nearly the same across all industries. Which is the same thing with Germans complaining about TSMC holding up Wafer capacity from their Cars manufacturers. What lots of Bollocks. Worth pointing out again, they are doing this at "Cost". I am in agreement with NoPie. Should the UK share some of its vaccine to its neighbour for good gestures? Yes. Are they obliged to do so? No.
- libertine 6y ago
  The contract states the order will be fulfilled by UK plants (2 to be more precise). Are those plants producing for EU contract? >Which is absolutely normal if their yield aren't up to standard. So all the 100 million vaccines was going to come out of a yield that showed results... 2 days ago. I wasn't aware they make such volume of vaccines in one sitting. UK are being delivered 2 million vaccines per week, and for EU they make batches of 100 million?

ksec 6y ago

>I don't think I get the question... is a country obliged to say they won't export something to other country? I guess so, how the hell is the other country supposed to know? Again, why should they export it? When the whole UK site was paid and set up by UK government before it was handed to AZ for further development. There are no obligations from AZ to fulfil that order from another plant. It is the same with Silicon Wafer, Foods, Metals. If you want something specific, production has to be planned ahead in advance. >Well AZ is the one that told 2 days ago that it won't fulfill a order of 100 million doses due to March Which is absolutely normal if their yield aren't up to standard. It is new, sometimes things dont work. I dont have any experience with Vaccine Production but these things takes time. Supply Chain and Production basics and fundamentals are nearly the same across all industries. Which is the same thing with Germans complaining about TSMC holding up Wafer capacity from their Cars manufacturers. What lots of Bollocks. Worth pointing out again, they are doing this at "Cost". I am in agreement with NoPie. Should the UK share some of its vaccine to its neighbour for good gestures? Yes. Are they obliged to do so? No.

libertine 6y ago
The contract states the order will be fulfilled by UK plants (2 to be more precise). Are those plants producing for EU contract? >Which is absolutely normal if their yield aren't up to standard. So all the 100 million vaccines was going to come out of a yield that showed results... 2 days ago. I wasn't aware they make such volume of vaccines in one sitting. UK are being delivered 2 million vaccines per week, and for EU they make batches of 100 million?