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Well they get kicked out of the country if they get fired.

by oji0hub 6y ago

finolex1 6y ago
The paper is about IMO medalists and the like. Getting fired is not among their primary concerns.
briandear 6y ago
Is that different than Europe for those on a work visa?
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- jokethrowaway 6y ago
  No, if you're ex-EU with a working visa and you lose your job, you can lose legal status in the country (unless you get another visa, whether that's another employer or something else)
  - jounker 6y ago
    It’s actually really different in treatment, at least in Germany. Yes, you can loose your job but you get to stick around until your visa expires, which in my experience is tied to the visa term rather than the employment. When you loose employment you’re also allowed to collect unemployment. My visa class (basically the equivalent of an H1B) also allowed me to work as a contractor in my field. Finally, getting the visa transferred to another employer just requires you to show up at the immigration office with an employment contract. Your employer doesn’t have to do anything. There is also an assumption here that you’re a guest who is trying to do the right thing rather than someone who is trying to game the system or steal a job from Germans. So, the reality is that it’s hugely different from the experience I’ve heard of people having with the American immigration system.
- jounker 6y ago
  I can only speak for German and Swiss work visas, but my experience is that they are very different than US work visas. The systems feel very much like you are being treated as a guest. Yes, there are rules but the rules are fair. You lost your job? Well, you’ve been paying taxes, so you’re entitled to all the benefits that any other tax payer gets. You lost your job? Well, you can take contract work in your field until you get a job? You want to change your visa type? You can do that without leaving the country? You want to visit you family back in the USA for three months? Sure, family is important. So are vacations. So yeah, it’s really different.

Well they get kicked out of the country if they get fired.

finolex1 6y ago

The paper is about IMO medalists and the like. Getting fired is not among their primary concerns.

briandear 6y ago

Is that different than Europe for those on a work visa?

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jokethrowaway 6y ago
No, if you're ex-EU with a working visa and you lose your job, you can lose legal status in the country (unless you get another visa, whether that's another employer or something else)
- jounker 6y ago
  It’s actually really different in treatment, at least in Germany. Yes, you can loose your job but you get to stick around until your visa expires, which in my experience is tied to the visa term rather than the employment. When you loose employment you’re also allowed to collect unemployment. My visa class (basically the equivalent of an H1B) also allowed me to work as a contractor in my field. Finally, getting the visa transferred to another employer just requires you to show up at the immigration office with an employment contract. Your employer doesn’t have to do anything. There is also an assumption here that you’re a guest who is trying to do the right thing rather than someone who is trying to game the system or steal a job from Germans. So, the reality is that it’s hugely different from the experience I’ve heard of people having with the American immigration system.
jounker 6y ago
I can only speak for German and Swiss work visas, but my experience is that they are very different than US work visas. The systems feel very much like you are being treated as a guest. Yes, there are rules but the rules are fair. You lost your job? Well, you’ve been paying taxes, so you’re entitled to all the benefits that any other tax payer gets. You lost your job? Well, you can take contract work in your field until you get a job? You want to change your visa type? You can do that without leaving the country? You want to visit you family back in the USA for three months? Sure, family is important. So are vacations. So yeah, it’s really different.