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Yes, because you have to work a lot harder to make it in the U.S. than other countries, where you could mostly slack off and be taken care of by robust welfare
by xwdv 6y ago
Yes, because you have to work a lot harder to make it in the U.S. than other countries, where you could mostly slack off and be taken care of by robust welfare systems.
But also, the rewards for working harder in the US and having the right bit of luck are much higher than other countries. If you're an immigrant and you're looking to move somewhere for a YOLO shot at a good life, the U.S. is still the best game in town.
- mucholove 6y agoYou’re clearly not from a Latin American country. I am both Latin American and European. The experience in Latin America is that you can’t make it no matter how hard you try. So much paperwork. And you have to pre-pay taxes! (Anticipos) I am also European. And sure Spain has much bigger safety. But Latin American inherits its dysfunctional bureaucracy from Spain. UK / US culture is free and unleashed.
- MattGaiser 6y ago> And you have to pre-pay taxes! Before you make money, you need to pay tax?
- nottorp 6y ago> Before you make money, you need to pay tax? In countries with corrupt and/or incompetent tax authorities, they try to introduce a fixed tax amount / pay in advance scheme for ... reasons ... where they can. Usually they squeeze freelancers first. Or random liberal occupations. In Romania freelancers and landlords have to prepay taxes based on last years' income, for example. With the exception of some kinds of freelancers that they just gave up on and make them pay a fixed amount per year. Freelancers prepay taxes in Greece too, as far as i know.
- anonfornoreason 6y agoYou have to prepay in the USA as well based on previous year taxes. It’s called making safe harbor, and there are penalties if you don’t.
- nottorp 6y agoSo if your income drops compared to last year, you're screwed two ways in the US as well? For example, if you lost student renters due to Covid and remote learning.
- oblio 6y agoSo I guess you're saying it's much easier to be an entrepreneur in the UK/US. Aren't most people employees, though?
- mucholove 6y agoNope. Not saying that. For the high tech case...in Spain, an employer can’t provide stock options to employees. The Silicon Valley case where the first few dozen employees become millionaires is not an option in Spain. For low-level employees, many are employed in the black market and enjoy no privileges. Because of this they get no credit, phone lines and numerous other benefits that extend to being legal. They can’t make the jump. These problems extend to Dominican Republic where they exist but are even worse. US / UK is better for hard working, and smart people be they employees or employed people. Anecdotally, I know so many stories of Dominicans who move to USA and begin to work so hard because they finally get compensated and rewarded for previously unacknowledged work. You hear this everywhere. Dominicans become hard workers in USA.
- Bakary 6y agoIt's free and unleashed in the sense that the cost is paid elsewhere
- oblio 6y agoAnd if you miss, you're punished like you're living in a third world country. And it's not hard to miss, it's quite easy actually. Plus, despite all the propaganda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Gatsby_curve#/media/File:The_Great_Gatsby_Curve.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Gatsby_curve#/media/File... The US has much lower intergenerational social mobility than other developed countries. So it's much more likely that if you're born poor, you'll stay poor for the rest of your life.
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