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That's still not an answer. You're avoiding the question and... I don't know, answering some other question that no one asked, it looks like. If a company has

That's still not an answer. You're avoiding the question and... I don't know, answering some other question that no one asked, it looks like. If a company has the option between OpenJDK and its "free" license or paying Oracle for a different license, why would anyone feel safe choosing the former, given that when you deal with Oracle, you deal with the risk of wasting as much money or more to defend yourself in court than the price of Oracle's paid option? Open source licenses are only as good as as the belief by the licensing party that the terms of the license mean anything.

pjmlp 6y ago
My dear, Oracle SDK == OpenJDK + JFR license + support. If you don't want to give money to Oracle, there are plenty of other companies to choose from, including Amazon, IBM, Microsoft, Alibaba, SAP, Azul.
- tw25980549 6y ago
  Once again, you have avoided the question (although you've spiced it up this time with some additional condescension). You listed OpenJDK as a viable "free" option. Defend it, or don't, but stop trying to pivot the conversation while pretending that changing the subject is a valid answer answer to the thing that was asked.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    The ability to understand falls on the recipient. Your favourite search engine has the answer. If you feel like trolling, that is your problem, bye.
    - tw25980549 6y ago
      There is no confusion on this end. You're ignoring the question that I'm asking, because the answer is unpleasant, and you're instead responding with non-answers, because looking like you're saying something when you're really saying nothing is easier. Facts: We have evidence that Oracle doesn't care about the actual terms of GPL. We have evidence that they're willing to subject people to legal turmoil if Oracle decides they want you to pay instead of using the "free" license.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        https://medium.com/@javachampions/java-is-still-free-2-0-0-6b9aa8d6d244 https://medium.com/@javachampions/java-is-still-free-2-0-0-6...
        tw25980549 6y ago
        Another non-answer that avoids the question. > Defend it, or don't, but stop trying to pivot the conversation while pretending that changing the subject is a valid answer answer to the thing that was asked.

pjmlp 6y ago

My dear, Oracle SDK == OpenJDK + JFR license + support. If you don't want to give money to Oracle, there are plenty of other companies to choose from, including Amazon, IBM, Microsoft, Alibaba, SAP, Azul.

tw25980549 6y ago
Once again, you have avoided the question (although you've spiced it up this time with some additional condescension). You listed OpenJDK as a viable "free" option. Defend it, or don't, but stop trying to pivot the conversation while pretending that changing the subject is a valid answer answer to the thing that was asked.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  The ability to understand falls on the recipient. Your favourite search engine has the answer. If you feel like trolling, that is your problem, bye.
  - tw25980549 6y ago
    There is no confusion on this end. You're ignoring the question that I'm asking, because the answer is unpleasant, and you're instead responding with non-answers, because looking like you're saying something when you're really saying nothing is easier. Facts: We have evidence that Oracle doesn't care about the actual terms of GPL. We have evidence that they're willing to subject people to legal turmoil if Oracle decides they want you to pay instead of using the "free" license.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      https://medium.com/@javachampions/java-is-still-free-2-0-0-6b9aa8d6d244 https://medium.com/@javachampions/java-is-still-free-2-0-0-6...
      - tw25980549 6y ago
        Another non-answer that avoids the question. > Defend it, or don't, but stop trying to pivot the conversation while pretending that changing the subject is a valid answer answer to the thing that was asked.