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Samsung security, privacy and general software qualify are all a joke as far as I can tell and it’s amusing anyone would put them in even the same ballpark as G

Samsung security, privacy and general software qualify are all a joke as far as I can tell and it’s amusing anyone would put them in even the same ballpark as Google. Dog bites man is not news, and neither are most of the Samsung software travesties ranging from software supply chain debacles to TV spying to data breaches. Nobody even cares in the tech community because no one expects anything of them.

GekkePrutser 6y ago
We were just talking about privacy, in that sense I think Samsung is roughly at the same level (considering it can't get much worse than Google :) ). I think Google is doing a good job with their Pixel phones indeed in terms of security, though they need longer support IMO. Samsung seems to just call everything 'knox' but not really specify what exactly they're doing. So from a security point of view I agree.
- dodobirdlord 6y ago
  > considering it can't get much worse than Google :) What? It can get way worse than Google. For all the privacy invasive things that Google does it’s one of the least bad. Unlike most companies that collect data it doesn’t directly sell user data, and it has a good history of avoiding security vulnerabilities that leak data.
  - GekkePrutser 6y ago
    Avoiding vulnerabilities that leak data to others except themselves you mean :) I suppose the Chinese state and the apps they control like WeChat is worse in terms of what they do with the data (this social credit score etc). You're right. I was mainly thinking about the collection itself, not what is done with it. What I mind mainly about Google is that they use it as payment for their services but don't provide any option to opt out and just pay with money. Though I suppose even if they did that at this stage, I wouldn't trust them.
- dolmen 6y ago
  > I think Samsung is roughly at the same level (considering it can't get much worse than Google :) ) Well, what about Huawei who want to send your data to China?
  - GekkePrutser 6y ago
    True but Huawei is no longer a player on western markets. I didn't really consider them.

GekkePrutser 6y ago

We were just talking about privacy, in that sense I think Samsung is roughly at the same level (considering it can't get much worse than Google :) ). I think Google is doing a good job with their Pixel phones indeed in terms of security, though they need longer support IMO. Samsung seems to just call everything 'knox' but not really specify what exactly they're doing. So from a security point of view I agree.

dodobirdlord 6y ago
> considering it can't get much worse than Google :) What? It can get way worse than Google. For all the privacy invasive things that Google does it’s one of the least bad. Unlike most companies that collect data it doesn’t directly sell user data, and it has a good history of avoiding security vulnerabilities that leak data.
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  Avoiding vulnerabilities that leak data to others except themselves you mean :) I suppose the Chinese state and the apps they control like WeChat is worse in terms of what they do with the data (this social credit score etc). You're right. I was mainly thinking about the collection itself, not what is done with it. What I mind mainly about Google is that they use it as payment for their services but don't provide any option to opt out and just pay with money. Though I suppose even if they did that at this stage, I wouldn't trust them.
dolmen 6y ago
> I think Samsung is roughly at the same level (considering it can't get much worse than Google :) ) Well, what about Huawei who want to send your data to China?
- GekkePrutser 6y ago
  True but Huawei is no longer a player on western markets. I didn't really consider them.