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>>Imagine rebuilding the core infrastructure at Microsoft - that takes years and years. But now you also have the entirety of the global economy dependent on yo

by syshum 6y ago

>>Imagine rebuilding the core infrastructure at Microsoft - that takes years and years. But now you also have the entirety of the global economy dependent on your software. That is a bad analogy, MS takes years to change the core because it require INSANE levels of backwards compatibility. Apps written for windows 2000 still work and need to work today... This would not need to be the case with this type of system, there are a whole host of political reasons why the system is built the way it is, part of it is the desire to control it (and in this case the wrong people where doing things they were not suppose to) I am sure you will call that "conspiracy", but the reality is that the investment system is setup to be slow and opaque not because of the need for backwards compatibility, or security it is that way so the "correct people" control it plain and simple

SilasX 6y ago
In fairness, stock exchanges care even more about backward compatibility and so it would be at least as much an issue for them. Edit: Sorry, I say it way too much, but this merits a repeat of the one-liner: "The reason God was able to finish the earth in only six days is that He didn't have to worry about backward compatibility [or legacy system integration, or satisfying an installed userbase]."
- splintercell 6y ago
  Sure, but there's no real reason why ALL companies need to have their stocks compatible with each other on the same exchange.
  - the_local_host 6y ago
    > [T]here's no real reason why ALL companies need to have their stocks compatible I think it would be way harder to trade a basket of stocks (e.g. pairs trading, going long one and short the other) if you had to worry about mismatched settlement dates across the different stocks; it would be like trading spot against a one-day forward.
    - Out_of_Characte 6y ago
      You've just defined exactly what high frequency traders do to make money. They balance all stock exchanges in order to make tiny profits on the stock differences.
  - andylynch 6y ago
    They don't, there are hundreds of exchanges and plenty of competitors for listings - CSDs & clearing are a pinch point. But in some ways exchanges also function as a natural monopoly; especially for primary issuance. e.g. look at AMEX's IPO slate compared to the big two, where the market is right now - it's insignificant, and they are the #3 exchange in the US. People want to list to make money, and that means going where the liquidity is until there's a really good reason not to, like with NASDAQ's move to electronic trading in the '70s.
oblio 6y ago
I think even Win95 apps work on Windows 10, not just Windows 2000 :-) Think about all the flak they're getting for Settings/Control Panel. It's a multi-decade process to rewrite all of Control Panel, because Control Panel supports custom integrations plus it's such a central piece of software that looking at the code the wrong way probably breaks some client doing some crazy stuff with it :-)

by syshum 6y ago

SilasX 6y ago

In fairness, stock exchanges care even more about backward compatibility and so it would be at least as much an issue for them. Edit: Sorry, I say it way too much, but this merits a repeat of the one-liner: "The reason God was able to finish the earth in only six days is that He didn't have to worry about backward compatibility [or legacy system integration, or satisfying an installed userbase]."

splintercell 6y ago
Sure, but there's no real reason why ALL companies need to have their stocks compatible with each other on the same exchange.
- the_local_host 6y ago
  > [T]here's no real reason why ALL companies need to have their stocks compatible I think it would be way harder to trade a basket of stocks (e.g. pairs trading, going long one and short the other) if you had to worry about mismatched settlement dates across the different stocks; it would be like trading spot against a one-day forward.
  - Out_of_Characte 6y ago
    You've just defined exactly what high frequency traders do to make money. They balance all stock exchanges in order to make tiny profits on the stock differences.
- andylynch 6y ago
  They don't, there are hundreds of exchanges and plenty of competitors for listings - CSDs & clearing are a pinch point. But in some ways exchanges also function as a natural monopoly; especially for primary issuance. e.g. look at AMEX's IPO slate compared to the big two, where the market is right now - it's insignificant, and they are the #3 exchange in the US. People want to list to make money, and that means going where the liquidity is until there's a really good reason not to, like with NASDAQ's move to electronic trading in the '70s.

oblio 6y ago

I think even Win95 apps work on Windows 10, not just Windows 2000 :-) Think about all the flak they're getting for Settings/Control Panel. It's a multi-decade process to rewrite all of Control Panel, because Control Panel supports custom integrations plus it's such a central piece of software that looking at the code the wrong way probably breaks some client doing some crazy stuff with it :-)