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Serious question. Why doesnt he run for president? We need someone like him to sort all this all out because clearly the technically inept people we have in o

Serious question. Why doesnt he run for president? We need someone like him to sort all this all out because clearly the technically inept people we have in office have no ability or want to deal with it. Nothing has been done. We need tech people to deal with tech issues in a tech era.

snypher 6y ago
We would all be paying 30% income tax. Edit: this isn't a tech problem and I don't want what tech (Apple) presents as a solution.
- mandeepj 6y ago
  > We would all be paying 30% income tax. Only during the first year. Apple does cut it down to 15% - I guess after first year. There's this also - https://www.imore.com/apple-reducing-app-store-cut-15-vast-majority-developers https://www.imore.com/apple-reducing-app-store-cut-15-vast-m...
- burke 6y ago
  It is in large part a tech problem though. The solution may or may not be more tech, but a huge part of the problem is the explosion of new tech uncoupled from any assessment of social good. I’d estimate a tech CEO understands the problem at hand better than an octogenarian lawyer, at any rate.
- ricardobayes 6y ago
  Cries in European. Looking at you California tech dudes fleeing California because paying 13% income tax is 'too much'.
  - corrys 6y ago
    I don’t think people who are fleeing CA are in the 13% tax bracket. Federal + state tax is around 40% for most engineers I know.
    - aspyct 6y ago
      I see your Californian 40%, and raise you our belgian 60%, excluding VAT.
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      - jjeaff 6y ago
        Does that 60% include property tax?
      - igravious 6y ago
        What's your point? That different places have different social arrangements and tax regimes? “ Each month the employer pays a considerable amount on top of your salary into the social security fund. The employee also pays a proportion of his gross salary in social security contributions. This fund is then used to pay social security: allowances in the event of sickness unemployment benefits allowances in the event of incapacity for work through sickness or invalidity allowances in the event of accidents at work allowances in the event of industrial disease family allowances pensions ” https://www.belgium.be/en/family/social_security_in_belgium https://www.belgium.be/en/family/social_security_in_belgium And what about healthcare? “Healthcare in Belgium is composed of three parts. Firstly there is a primarily publicly funded healthcare and social security service run by the federal government, which organises and regulates healthcare; independent private/public practitioners, university/semi-private hospitals and care institutions. There are a few (commercially run for-profit) private hospitals.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Belgium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Belgium I imagine this is all very different to how things are in California. So why are you comparing them? Regarding VAT, at least where I'm from VAT is not levied on essential goods afaik. Secondly, some proponents of VAT claim it is a "fairer" tax than say income tax. One of Andrew Yang's ideas to fund UBI was to bring VAT to the USA (I am aware that VAT does exist to some extents in the States.) So basically, what's your point?
        aspyct 6y ago
  - nemothekid 6y ago
    >Looking at you California tech dudes fleeing California because paying 13% income tax is 'too much'. I'm 100% sure this is the political narrative being pushed in order to reduce California's taxes, but most people I know are moving because of housing costs, not taxes.
    - eecc 6y ago
      housing costs are just a privately run tax scheme.
      - sib301 6y ago
        By that logic you could say that about anything that costs money, and is “compulsory”. Are food costs a privately run tax scheme?
mandeepj 6y ago
> Why doesnt he run for president? His profile is similar to Buttigeg. He met with some resistance during his campaign due to that and was not able to go beyond a certain momentum. I believe something similar would happen to him (Cook) also if he ran. Or, maybe he's not interested. Why don't you have a word with him and try to pursue - tim@apple.com ?
mgh2 6y ago
Elon Musk warned about AI in a similar tone before all these problems came up. So far only Zuckerberg and Thiel were politically vocal that I know of.
- nojito 6y ago
  Musk warns about AGI, Tim Cook is talking about the algos that are currently being used to increased engagement of services.
- Swenrekcah 6y ago
  Well out of the four of them I’d certainly want Tim Cook in the job.
bobthepanda 6y ago
Does he want the job? Many smart people don’t. But also, anyone desiring power is the least suitable person for it, or whatever that quote is.

snypher 6y ago

We would all be paying 30% income tax. Edit: this isn't a tech problem and I don't want what tech (Apple) presents as a solution.

mandeepj 6y ago
> We would all be paying 30% income tax. Only during the first year. Apple does cut it down to 15% - I guess after first year. There's this also - https://www.imore.com/apple-reducing-app-store-cut-15-vast-majority-developers https://www.imore.com/apple-reducing-app-store-cut-15-vast-m...
burke 6y ago
It is in large part a tech problem though. The solution may or may not be more tech, but a huge part of the problem is the explosion of new tech uncoupled from any assessment of social good. I’d estimate a tech CEO understands the problem at hand better than an octogenarian lawyer, at any rate.
ricardobayes 6y ago
Cries in European. Looking at you California tech dudes fleeing California because paying 13% income tax is 'too much'.
- corrys 6y ago
  I don’t think people who are fleeing CA are in the 13% tax bracket. Federal + state tax is around 40% for most engineers I know.
  - aspyct 6y ago
    I see your Californian 40%, and raise you our belgian 60%, excluding VAT.
    - deleted 6y ago
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    - jjeaff 6y ago
      Does that 60% include property tax?
    - igravious 6y ago
      What's your point? That different places have different social arrangements and tax regimes? “ Each month the employer pays a considerable amount on top of your salary into the social security fund. The employee also pays a proportion of his gross salary in social security contributions. This fund is then used to pay social security: allowances in the event of sickness unemployment benefits allowances in the event of incapacity for work through sickness or invalidity allowances in the event of accidents at work allowances in the event of industrial disease family allowances pensions ” https://www.belgium.be/en/family/social_security_in_belgium https://www.belgium.be/en/family/social_security_in_belgium And what about healthcare? “Healthcare in Belgium is composed of three parts. Firstly there is a primarily publicly funded healthcare and social security service run by the federal government, which organises and regulates healthcare; independent private/public practitioners, university/semi-private hospitals and care institutions. There are a few (commercially run for-profit) private hospitals.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Belgium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Belgium I imagine this is all very different to how things are in California. So why are you comparing them? Regarding VAT, at least where I'm from VAT is not levied on essential goods afaik. Secondly, some proponents of VAT claim it is a "fairer" tax than say income tax. One of Andrew Yang's ideas to fund UBI was to bring VAT to the USA (I am aware that VAT does exist to some extents in the States.) So basically, what's your point?
      - aspyct 6y ago
- nemothekid 6y ago
  >Looking at you California tech dudes fleeing California because paying 13% income tax is 'too much'. I'm 100% sure this is the political narrative being pushed in order to reduce California's taxes, but most people I know are moving because of housing costs, not taxes.
  - eecc 6y ago
    housing costs are just a privately run tax scheme.
    - sib301 6y ago
      By that logic you could say that about anything that costs money, and is “compulsory”. Are food costs a privately run tax scheme?

mandeepj 6y ago

> Why doesnt he run for president? His profile is similar to Buttigeg. He met with some resistance during his campaign due to that and was not able to go beyond a certain momentum. I believe something similar would happen to him (Cook) also if he ran. Or, maybe he's not interested. Why don't you have a word with him and try to pursue - tim@apple.com ?

mgh2 6y ago

Elon Musk warned about AI in a similar tone before all these problems came up. So far only Zuckerberg and Thiel were politically vocal that I know of.

nojito 6y ago
Musk warns about AGI, Tim Cook is talking about the algos that are currently being used to increased engagement of services.
Swenrekcah 6y ago
Well out of the four of them I’d certainly want Tim Cook in the job.

bobthepanda 6y ago

Does he want the job? Many smart people don’t. But also, anyone desiring power is the least suitable person for it, or whatever that quote is.