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There's pushback on another app store from Microsoft because nobody wants more walled gardens. The pendulum has shifted, and it's swinging towards PWA. Per Mi

There's pushback on another app store from Microsoft because nobody wants more walled gardens. The pendulum has shifted, and it's swinging towards PWA. Per Microsoft, Outlook is now a progressive web app. App stores are dying - they're just going to take a bit to timeout.

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krisgenre 6y ago
>>The pendulum has shifted, and it's swinging towards PWA Didn't Firefox recently announce they're discontinuing PWA features?
- crocodiletears 6y ago
  Only for desktop, I think.
- wubin 6y ago
  FF only removed the SSB (site specific browser) feature on desktop which was in an alpha state. There was no announcement that Mozilla was going to remove the entire PWA features (such as service workers). PWA is a set of modern web standards. "Supporting PWA" can mean many things but "Removing unfinished SSB" doesn't mean "Removing PWA".
- notatoad 6y ago
  Unfortunately, the pendulum is also swinging away from Firefox.
Closi 6y ago
> The pendulum has shifted, and it's swinging towards PWA. It has for some things, and for others native is king. Native just delivers experiences that PWA can’t (yet). To take a simple example - let’s consider a ‘timer app’. On iPhone I ask Siri to set me a timer for 5 minutes, it sets the timer and I walk away from my phone. 15 minutes the timer pings on my watch where I can accept it. There are multiple steps in this user story that a PWA currently struggles with, including: * (Reliable) backgrounding * Siri integration * Notifications * Apple Watch support
- throwaway3699 6y ago
  These are all artificial problems created by Apple, though. The first three are all doable on Android PWAs, and you can do everything with a TWA in the Play Store.
  - Closi 6y ago
    I don’t disagree, although I think these reasons do mean that it’s far too early to say “App stores are dying” as in the post I was replying to - at least in Apple’s case they are still central, and even seem to be becoming more core with deeper integration into MacOS. Also, in this context, a TWA isn’t useful as the post is about avoiding an App Store / central control using PWA.
    - acct776 6y ago
      Apple's case, until the users revolt hard enough/some killer webapp on Android doesn't work the same on iOS.

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krisgenre 6y ago

>>The pendulum has shifted, and it's swinging towards PWA Didn't Firefox recently announce they're discontinuing PWA features?

crocodiletears 6y ago
Only for desktop, I think.
wubin 6y ago
FF only removed the SSB (site specific browser) feature on desktop which was in an alpha state. There was no announcement that Mozilla was going to remove the entire PWA features (such as service workers). PWA is a set of modern web standards. "Supporting PWA" can mean many things but "Removing unfinished SSB" doesn't mean "Removing PWA".
notatoad 6y ago
Unfortunately, the pendulum is also swinging away from Firefox.

Closi 6y ago

> The pendulum has shifted, and it's swinging towards PWA. It has for some things, and for others native is king. Native just delivers experiences that PWA can’t (yet). To take a simple example - let’s consider a ‘timer app’. On iPhone I ask Siri to set me a timer for 5 minutes, it sets the timer and I walk away from my phone. 15 minutes the timer pings on my watch where I can accept it. There are multiple steps in this user story that a PWA currently struggles with, including: * (Reliable) backgrounding * Siri integration * Notifications * Apple Watch support

throwaway3699 6y ago
These are all artificial problems created by Apple, though. The first three are all doable on Android PWAs, and you can do everything with a TWA in the Play Store.
- Closi 6y ago
  I don’t disagree, although I think these reasons do mean that it’s far too early to say “App stores are dying” as in the post I was replying to - at least in Apple’s case they are still central, and even seem to be becoming more core with deeper integration into MacOS. Also, in this context, a TWA isn’t useful as the post is about avoiding an App Store / central control using PWA.
  - acct776 6y ago
    Apple's case, until the users revolt hard enough/some killer webapp on Android doesn't work the same on iOS.