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And don't forget the State of Oregon paid an additional $240 million for their own version of it [1]. [1] https://www.koin.com/news/oregon-oracle-settle-cover-

And don't forget the State of Oregon paid an additional $240 million for their own version of it [1]. [1] https://www.koin.com/news/oregon-oracle-settle-cover-oregon-lawsuits-for-100m/ https://www.koin.com/news/oregon-oracle-settle-cover-oregon-...

mraza007 6y ago
Wow I’m amazed like how much money can made if you are into government contracting I’m just curious to know can you get government contracts let’s say if you are running a software agency
- Zenst 6y ago
  Yes, how to apply and secure governmental contracts and grants is something many educational curriculum miss out upon in life.
  - hertzrat 6y ago
    How does the process work?
    - raverbashing 6y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_procurement_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_procurement_in_the_... This is the overview, there are other websites that go more into the details if you google it But basically it is survival of the most boring and the most detailistic. Then of course you lose the tender because you weren't "in the know", or you missed the requirements of the Toilet Procurement acts of 1974 which specified the thickness and traction resistance of toilet paper used in government purchases. Oh and if you're "lucky" your Health contract management software will suddenly have to be able to order pizza as well, you know, it's "just an extra thing". But you won't get paid while that doesn't happen (ok this might not apply to the USA specifically, but you get the idea)
    - xondono 6y ago
      In most countries it works by having a buddy making the choices
- alasdair_ 6y ago
  A lot of “government contracting” is having people whose job it is to find the people that can authorize a sale and then hand-hold them through all the paperwork needed for them to actually make the sale.
  - dreamcompiler 6y ago
    This. Gov contracting is a rare, specialized skill. That's why the same big companies keep getting big contracts over and over. If you're a company without these skills you have no chance at landing one of the giant contracts. The CYA and auditing requirements are too insane to even write the proposal without a full-time staff of contracting specialists and a long track record of prior contracting. (As a new contractor you might be able to get a small-money contract from e.g. the SBIR but those max out at roughly $100K.)
selimthegrim 6y ago
I met a manager of this once. She told me Oracle hired anyone with a college degree (hers was English) for her job because “managing developers isn’t that hard, you just have to keep track of milestones etc”

mraza007 6y ago

Wow I’m amazed like how much money can made if you are into government contracting I’m just curious to know can you get government contracts let’s say if you are running a software agency

Zenst 6y ago
Yes, how to apply and secure governmental contracts and grants is something many educational curriculum miss out upon in life.
- hertzrat 6y ago
  How does the process work?
  - raverbashing 6y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_procurement_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_procurement_in_the_... This is the overview, there are other websites that go more into the details if you google it But basically it is survival of the most boring and the most detailistic. Then of course you lose the tender because you weren't "in the know", or you missed the requirements of the Toilet Procurement acts of 1974 which specified the thickness and traction resistance of toilet paper used in government purchases. Oh and if you're "lucky" your Health contract management software will suddenly have to be able to order pizza as well, you know, it's "just an extra thing". But you won't get paid while that doesn't happen (ok this might not apply to the USA specifically, but you get the idea)
  - xondono 6y ago
    In most countries it works by having a buddy making the choices
alasdair_ 6y ago
A lot of “government contracting” is having people whose job it is to find the people that can authorize a sale and then hand-hold them through all the paperwork needed for them to actually make the sale.
- dreamcompiler 6y ago
  This. Gov contracting is a rare, specialized skill. That's why the same big companies keep getting big contracts over and over. If you're a company without these skills you have no chance at landing one of the giant contracts. The CYA and auditing requirements are too insane to even write the proposal without a full-time staff of contracting specialists and a long track record of prior contracting. (As a new contractor you might be able to get a small-money contract from e.g. the SBIR but those max out at roughly $100K.)

selimthegrim 6y ago

I met a manager of this once. She told me Oracle hired anyone with a college degree (hers was English) for her job because “managing developers isn’t that hard, you just have to keep track of milestones etc”