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Did you read your own links? > Samyukta Kisan Morcha, an umbrella organisation representing more than 40 farmers’ unions, condemned those who had taken part in

Did you read your own links? > Samyukta Kisan Morcha, an umbrella organisation representing more than 40 farmers’ unions, condemned those who had taken part in the clashes and said that “anti-social elements had infiltrated the otherwise peaceful movement”. The organizers clearly condemned the violence. What else should they do? Repeating what you conveniently ignored: one bad incident does not override months of completely peaceful protests, acknowledged by residents of the areas where they were protesting. And yet, you bring up just that one thing, which is very much in line with the government propaganda. The Republic link was the icing on the cake. Like I said, you are free to believe what you want but painting yourself as pro freedom of protests while ignoring the fact that they have been peaceful for months and singling out this one thing says a lot about your bias. Source: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/farmers-storm-india-s-red-fort-by-the-thousands-1.5282103 https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/farmers-storm-india-s-red-fort-... > The farmers have been staging largely peaceful protests for nearly two months

0xFFFE 6y ago
> Repeating what you conveniently ignored: one bad incident does not override months of completely peaceful protests I am not the one conveniently forgetting violence at the Red fort. Let me ask you, why even protest when the Supreme court is hearing the case and Govt has agreed to put the law on hold for 1.5 years. Why violence & blocking highways? Why not take it up with Supreme Court?
- middleclick 6y ago
  The Supreme Court of India is going to listen to the farmers? The same Supreme Court that asked why and I quote, "why old people and women are kept in the protests" as if thousands of old farmers were paid money and brought in to the protests? I repeat: protesting is a fundamental right. Farmers have been protesting peacefully for months. One bad incident is not reflective of the otherwise largely peaceful protests. You are ignoring this line. https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/01/14/sorry-this-isnt-a-mans-protest-women-farmers-on-sc-wanting-them-to-go-home https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/01/14/sorry-this-isnt-a-man... You can drop the facade at this stage and stop wasting everyone's time. At least have the audacity to be genuine of your beliefs. To not be so is cowardly.
  - sbmthakur 6y ago
    Why shouldn't the SC ask that question? They are not issuing a diktat. It's a large group and a certain degree of coercion, even if small, is likely involved. It's only now that it's coming out in open. https://www.freepressjournal.in/viral/protest-or-pay-a-fine-this-punjab-village-is-rallying-support-for-farmers-agitation-in-an-unusual-way https://www.freepressjournal.in/viral/protest-or-pay-a-fine-... We are talking about areas around Delhi where women and children have much less liberty when compared to other regions of India.
    - middleclick 6y ago
      Why should they? If they had done basic research, they wouldn't even have come up something as asinine as this. Fact: women contribute to farm work as much as men in Punjab: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/in-punjab-women-take-charge-of-farms-as-menfolk-take-part-in-protests-at-delhi-border/story-nPFLTQPiBNpEYgeNQFNiPJ.html https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/in-punjab-women-take-c.... So women are a part of the protest because they are also affected by this. Why even bring this up at all? > We are talking about areas around Delhi where women and children have much less liberty when compared to other regions of India. The fact that you wrote this shows how little you know about this. The majority of the farmers protesting are Punjabi farmers. Do you know that in a Punjabi household, women participate in the work equally? This is not like UP or Bihar. Even in religious ceremonies, women participate equally. Don't bring up your own discriminatory customs and think they apply to every other community in India. Coming back to the Supreme Court, this is the same court that has got its tiny feelings upset over a political satire: https://scroll.in/latest/985456/contempt-case-against-rachita-taneja-criticism-of-courts-growing-everybody-is-doing-it-says-sc https://scroll.in/latest/985456/contempt-case-against-rachit... Should I point out the relation between the ex Chief Justice and the ruling party? You are pretty terrible at this.
      - sbmthakur 6y ago
        There's no need for personal attacks. You have conviniently ignored the link I shared that indicates coercion. While it's great that women actively participate in events in Punjab, a quick glance at the difference between male and female litery rates shows there's some distance to cover. Being better than UP and Bihar isn't exactly an achievement. My comment didn't even specially talk about Punjab. The protests also include people from other states and one of those has a really bad reputation for treatment of household women. As for the SC, that's what we will get when there are strong rules around Contempt of Court.
- rishav_sharan 6y ago
  because after 1.5 years the same law gets passed without amendments. This is a well known trick most authoritarian govts apply. If any law has immediate widespread resistance, just put it on hold for some time till the resentment dies down and new news cycle takes over. Then pass it up without much resistance.

0xFFFE 6y ago

> Repeating what you conveniently ignored: one bad incident does not override months of completely peaceful protests I am not the one conveniently forgetting violence at the Red fort. Let me ask you, why even protest when the Supreme court is hearing the case and Govt has agreed to put the law on hold for 1.5 years. Why violence & blocking highways? Why not take it up with Supreme Court?

middleclick 6y ago
The Supreme Court of India is going to listen to the farmers? The same Supreme Court that asked why and I quote, "why old people and women are kept in the protests" as if thousands of old farmers were paid money and brought in to the protests? I repeat: protesting is a fundamental right. Farmers have been protesting peacefully for months. One bad incident is not reflective of the otherwise largely peaceful protests. You are ignoring this line. https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/01/14/sorry-this-isnt-a-mans-protest-women-farmers-on-sc-wanting-them-to-go-home https://www.newslaundry.com/2021/01/14/sorry-this-isnt-a-man... You can drop the facade at this stage and stop wasting everyone's time. At least have the audacity to be genuine of your beliefs. To not be so is cowardly.
- sbmthakur 6y ago
  Why shouldn't the SC ask that question? They are not issuing a diktat. It's a large group and a certain degree of coercion, even if small, is likely involved. It's only now that it's coming out in open. https://www.freepressjournal.in/viral/protest-or-pay-a-fine-this-punjab-village-is-rallying-support-for-farmers-agitation-in-an-unusual-way https://www.freepressjournal.in/viral/protest-or-pay-a-fine-... We are talking about areas around Delhi where women and children have much less liberty when compared to other regions of India.
  - middleclick 6y ago
    Why should they? If they had done basic research, they wouldn't even have come up something as asinine as this. Fact: women contribute to farm work as much as men in Punjab: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/in-punjab-women-take-charge-of-farms-as-menfolk-take-part-in-protests-at-delhi-border/story-nPFLTQPiBNpEYgeNQFNiPJ.html https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/in-punjab-women-take-c.... So women are a part of the protest because they are also affected by this. Why even bring this up at all? > We are talking about areas around Delhi where women and children have much less liberty when compared to other regions of India. The fact that you wrote this shows how little you know about this. The majority of the farmers protesting are Punjabi farmers. Do you know that in a Punjabi household, women participate in the work equally? This is not like UP or Bihar. Even in religious ceremonies, women participate equally. Don't bring up your own discriminatory customs and think they apply to every other community in India. Coming back to the Supreme Court, this is the same court that has got its tiny feelings upset over a political satire: https://scroll.in/latest/985456/contempt-case-against-rachita-taneja-criticism-of-courts-growing-everybody-is-doing-it-says-sc https://scroll.in/latest/985456/contempt-case-against-rachit... Should I point out the relation between the ex Chief Justice and the ruling party? You are pretty terrible at this.
    - sbmthakur 6y ago
      There's no need for personal attacks. You have conviniently ignored the link I shared that indicates coercion. While it's great that women actively participate in events in Punjab, a quick glance at the difference between male and female litery rates shows there's some distance to cover. Being better than UP and Bihar isn't exactly an achievement. My comment didn't even specially talk about Punjab. The protests also include people from other states and one of those has a really bad reputation for treatment of household women. As for the SC, that's what we will get when there are strong rules around Contempt of Court.
rishav_sharan 6y ago
because after 1.5 years the same law gets passed without amendments. This is a well known trick most authoritarian govts apply. If any law has immediate widespread resistance, just put it on hold for some time till the resentment dies down and new news cycle takes over. Then pass it up without much resistance.