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In Sweden, for example someone from Iceland (2 years) and Ireland (5 years) can get citizenship "by just working there for a few years". Immediately I don't thi

In Sweden, for example someone from Iceland (2 years) and Ireland (5 years) can get citizenship "by just working there for a few years". Immediately I don't think happens many places, but less than a decade does.

retrac 6y ago
Everyone who has permanent residency in Canada has a path to apply for citizenship, in principle. I do feel that is reasonable, even morally necessary. In practice it typically takes about 7 years from landing.
brabel 6y ago
In Sweden, if you're from outside the EU, you can get citizenship after 5 years working in the country. I believe that for EU citizens it's less than that. In many other countries, like Australia and (I think?) Canada, for example, one can become a citizen after 4 years living and working in the country.
- BryanBigs 6y ago
  Legally. I don't believe the path to citizenship is paved if you are working and staying in either of those countries illegally. Both Australia and Canada are quite picky on whom they let in. It's points based, supposed to be fit to the needs of the country. For giggles, I took my score for Canada. As a middle-aged individual, I wouldn't be able to get in under the normal program even while nearly topping out most other categories (I speak English and French, have advanced degrees, etc). Of course, you can buy your way in to almost any country.
  - brabel 6y ago
    I was talking about legal immigrants. If you're caught illegally in Australia you're basically immediately deported even if you've managed to stay in the country illegally for many years. There were some notorious cases of people being deported after 20 years in the country (not sure if the outcry from their supporters actually stopped any deportation)... Sweden is almost as dacronian. It is known to deport parents of children born in Sweden (who are legally Swedish citizens) because they were illegally in the country.
    - _-___________-_ 6y ago
      Children born in Sweden are not Swedish citizens unless at least one of the parents are Swedish citizens.
      - brabel 6y ago
        But they can become Swedish citizens easily: https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Becoming-a-Swedish-citizen/Citizenship-for-children/Stateless-children-born-in-Sweden.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/...

retrac 6y ago

Everyone who has permanent residency in Canada has a path to apply for citizenship, in principle. I do feel that is reasonable, even morally necessary. In practice it typically takes about 7 years from landing.

brabel 6y ago

In Sweden, if you're from outside the EU, you can get citizenship after 5 years working in the country. I believe that for EU citizens it's less than that. In many other countries, like Australia and (I think?) Canada, for example, one can become a citizen after 4 years living and working in the country.

BryanBigs 6y ago
Legally. I don't believe the path to citizenship is paved if you are working and staying in either of those countries illegally. Both Australia and Canada are quite picky on whom they let in. It's points based, supposed to be fit to the needs of the country. For giggles, I took my score for Canada. As a middle-aged individual, I wouldn't be able to get in under the normal program even while nearly topping out most other categories (I speak English and French, have advanced degrees, etc). Of course, you can buy your way in to almost any country.
- brabel 6y ago
  I was talking about legal immigrants. If you're caught illegally in Australia you're basically immediately deported even if you've managed to stay in the country illegally for many years. There were some notorious cases of people being deported after 20 years in the country (not sure if the outcry from their supporters actually stopped any deportation)... Sweden is almost as dacronian. It is known to deport parents of children born in Sweden (who are legally Swedish citizens) because they were illegally in the country.
  - _-___________-_ 6y ago
    Children born in Sweden are not Swedish citizens unless at least one of the parents are Swedish citizens.
    - brabel 6y ago
      But they can become Swedish citizens easily: https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/Becoming-a-Swedish-citizen/Citizenship-for-children/Stateless-children-born-in-Sweden.html https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/Private-individuals/...