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>I fully understand why people want to use Apple for their consuming needs. I really don't understand why my fellow developers choose to go with Apple as their

by konart 6y ago

>I fully understand why people want to use Apple for their consuming needs. I really don't understand why my fellow developers choose to go with Apple as their work machine. Because many of your fellow developers do not have and don't want a separate machine for just conding? Why is this idea so alien for some people? I've been using linux distros (mainly Ubuntu before unity nonsense and then arch and even maintained a package in AUR) since around 2006 to 2013-14. Every now and then I install Fedora\Ubuntu\Manjaro etc to see if anything got better to allow me to use it as a universal device should be used. Every time the answer is a firm NO. In fact sometimes the disto won't even install because of some weird reasons. For example I only managed to install Fedora on my current PC (build mainly for gaming) after changing some GRUB options (and spending two hours searching all over the web for a needed recipe). What the hell is this? As a sibling commenter said - Linux is still only good as close-to-targed (server) work machine. And it also has a few OSS tools for musicians and painters (like MuseScore and Krita). But that's it. Installation is still a mess, updates are still unpredictable. Software distribution is still a nightmare. General consumer software availability is ... there is almost none. If at some point my mac will become too unfriendly to work with as a dev tool (I don't see it coming really. Some people on HN usually treat some minor things as a catastrophe) - I will build a small dev server (or rent one).

jonp888 6y ago
>> I fully understand why people want to use Apple for their consuming needs. I really don't understand why my fellow developers choose to go with Apple as their work machine. > Because many of your fellow developers do not have and don't want a separate machine for just conding? Why is this idea so alien for some people? Well as a salaried employee, which I have been all my working life, you are generally required to have a seperate machine for work. So yes, this idea is pretty alien to me.
- konart 6y ago
  Different fields I guess. Cultural differences too maybe. My first serious jobs in IT were in consulting (Hyperion Planning in oil and gas in Russia) and this one company (aside from Accenture were I've had a bit of experience) where the only places that required me to use the provided notebook for the job. Same for British Petroleum. Security reasons etc. Not as single soft dev company I've worked since around 2012 required me to use their PCs (backend dev here) even though most of the do proived their macs or Thinkpads, or something else. Anyway - many devs are self employed and\or work remotely. They don't use corporate tech at all. Corporate VPN to access the net? Sure. But that's it. Honestly, I won't even consider a job offer that will restrict me to employer provided PC.

by konart 6y ago

jonp888 6y ago

>> I fully understand why people want to use Apple for their consuming needs. I really don't understand why my fellow developers choose to go with Apple as their work machine. > Because many of your fellow developers do not have and don't want a separate machine for just conding? Why is this idea so alien for some people? Well as a salaried employee, which I have been all my working life, you are generally required to have a seperate machine for work. So yes, this idea is pretty alien to me.

konart 6y ago
Different fields I guess. Cultural differences too maybe. My first serious jobs in IT were in consulting (Hyperion Planning in oil and gas in Russia) and this one company (aside from Accenture were I've had a bit of experience) where the only places that required me to use the provided notebook for the job. Same for British Petroleum. Security reasons etc. Not as single soft dev company I've worked since around 2012 required me to use their PCs (backend dev here) even though most of the do proived their macs or Thinkpads, or something else. Anyway - many devs are self employed and\or work remotely. They don't use corporate tech at all. Corporate VPN to access the net? Sure. But that's it. Honestly, I won't even consider a job offer that will restrict me to employer provided PC.