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Does not answer the question or expand on what time interval the data is collected. However, since you played the Google card, please take it back: "What shad

Does not answer the question or expand on what time interval the data is collected. However, since you played the Google card, please take it back: "What shady tactics did other countries use?" Also easily available by searching Google.

MichaelRazum 6y ago
Id doesn't matter at all. Facts are: Other countries placed their bets faster and started vaccination faster. First come first serve, don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe the EU should also use shady tactics but it sounds more like a huge corruption and bureaucracy disaster. By the way Biotech offered more vaccines and it was refused (even the CEO of Biotech gave an interview and said it was very confusing how the EU negotiated).
- HugoDaniel 6y ago
  "Huge corruption and bureaucracy disaster" Please provide facts before making unsubstantiated claims. This is how fake news proliferate. Don't contribute to it.
  - MichaelRazum 6y ago
    Sure. Corruption Ursula von der Leyen. Just the wrong person. I would say it sounds very much like corruption to me. https://www.politico.eu/article/the-scandal-hanging-over-ursula-von-der-leyen/ https://www.politico.eu/article/the-scandal-hanging-over-urs... Seems that France tried to help it's own company Sanofi. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/macron-accused-of-holding-out-for-french-jab-59r2zpvhf https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/macron-accused-of-holding... Bureaucracy Eu approved weeks later then others. If every day counts that is in my point of view a bureaucracy disaster. https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccine-ema-idUSKBN28P14H https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccine-e... Here also a claim from Pfilzer about ordering policy as too bureaucratically and slow. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/france-to-step-up-covid-jabs-after-claims-of-bowing-to-anti-vaxxers https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/france-to-step...
    - HugoDaniel 6y ago
      Those corruption cases must be verified and dealt with by the law. The EU latency is a well known cost of the coordinating effort of multiple countries with different politics and perspectives. EU is not a country. Make no mistake, without the EU the peripheral countries like mine would still be waiting for a vaccine. Make no mistake, without the EU countries like France and Germany would be having similar, if not better, vaccination numbers than the UK/USA are having now.

MichaelRazum 6y ago

Id doesn't matter at all. Facts are: Other countries placed their bets faster and started vaccination faster. First come first serve, don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe the EU should also use shady tactics but it sounds more like a huge corruption and bureaucracy disaster. By the way Biotech offered more vaccines and it was refused (even the CEO of Biotech gave an interview and said it was very confusing how the EU negotiated).

HugoDaniel 6y ago
"Huge corruption and bureaucracy disaster" Please provide facts before making unsubstantiated claims. This is how fake news proliferate. Don't contribute to it.
- MichaelRazum 6y ago
  Sure. Corruption Ursula von der Leyen. Just the wrong person. I would say it sounds very much like corruption to me. https://www.politico.eu/article/the-scandal-hanging-over-ursula-von-der-leyen/ https://www.politico.eu/article/the-scandal-hanging-over-urs... Seems that France tried to help it's own company Sanofi. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/macron-accused-of-holding-out-for-french-jab-59r2zpvhf https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/macron-accused-of-holding... Bureaucracy Eu approved weeks later then others. If every day counts that is in my point of view a bureaucracy disaster. https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccine-ema-idUSKBN28P14H https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccine-e... Here also a claim from Pfilzer about ordering policy as too bureaucratically and slow. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/france-to-step-up-covid-jabs-after-claims-of-bowing-to-anti-vaxxers https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/france-to-step...
  - HugoDaniel 6y ago
    Those corruption cases must be verified and dealt with by the law. The EU latency is a well known cost of the coordinating effort of multiple countries with different politics and perspectives. EU is not a country. Make no mistake, without the EU the peripheral countries like mine would still be waiting for a vaccine. Make no mistake, without the EU countries like France and Germany would be having similar, if not better, vaccination numbers than the UK/USA are having now.