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Well maybe, but even Ubuntu / Debian aren't workable for most people. I've used Linux and FreeBSD since the 90s and I'm still pleasantly surprised when my print

Well maybe, but even Ubuntu / Debian aren't workable for most people. I've used Linux and FreeBSD since the 90s and I'm still pleasantly surprised when my printer works out of the box. They're great for developers, but they've been unable to provide a usable and simple alternative for most people. Imo, partly because a lack of incentives since developers tend to create for themselves. Partly due to fragmentation leading to projects moving in every direction at the same time, which does not lead to a consistent or simple user experience.

neop1x 6y ago
When I am purchasing HW peripherals, I always check Linux support in advance. Since I started doing that, I had zero compatibility problems.
julienfr112 6y ago
Actually Ubuntu is not less usable than Windows 10. Ex on intel NUC - wifi on Ubuntu : out of box - wifi on windows : plug ethernet, install driver manually. Old printers works better on Linux, eg when driver do not work on windows 10. Libre Office outof box, Office : where is my key ? ...
- hutzlibu 6y ago
  "Actually Ubuntu is not less usable than Windows 10." For you and me maybe. But don't expect other people to have your standard of software choices etc.
  - Ericson2314 6y ago
    The problem is Ubuntu, but that consumers have migrated from desktops/laptops to Phones. (Bad for Linux, and bad for society as it's much easier to be a non-passitive participant on a desktop/laptop.)
  - seniorivn 6y ago
    for most people app selection on ubuntu is big enough to never need anything more only professional/rare software sometimes has no support/suitable alternative
- oji0hub 6y ago
  - Can I install my "favourite program" on Linux? Well sure, it's supported on X, Y and Z! - Oh but I'm on distro A. Oh sorry, that's not supported. But here's a post by some guy on some forum who says he made it work by doing a bunch of complicated things no one understands.
  - Macha 6y ago
    We're talking about Ubuntu. Distro X is always Ubuntu. Y and Z are usually picked from Debian, Red Hat, Fedora and Arch
  - m4rtink 6y ago
    This is often no longer an issue thanks to Flatpak & Steam Proton built-in Windows emulation.
    - Shared404 6y ago
      In addition, there's a significant subset of people who's only program they use is a web browser. This is obviously quite doable with basically any distro.
      - m4rtink 6y ago
        Yes, while this has issues of its own (as long as the web services they are using are centralized and corporate controlled) I have observed the less technical users I have been helping with computer issues are totally happy as long as they sit in front of a computer with a web browser, where they can log in to their online accounts and get going. Some might want a full mail client and possibly a printer configured and that's about it.

neop1x 6y ago

When I am purchasing HW peripherals, I always check Linux support in advance. Since I started doing that, I had zero compatibility problems.

julienfr112 6y ago

Actually Ubuntu is not less usable than Windows 10. Ex on intel NUC - wifi on Ubuntu : out of box - wifi on windows : plug ethernet, install driver manually. Old printers works better on Linux, eg when driver do not work on windows 10. Libre Office outof box, Office : where is my key ? ...

hutzlibu 6y ago
"Actually Ubuntu is not less usable than Windows 10." For you and me maybe. But don't expect other people to have your standard of software choices etc.
- Ericson2314 6y ago
  The problem is Ubuntu, but that consumers have migrated from desktops/laptops to Phones. (Bad for Linux, and bad for society as it's much easier to be a non-passitive participant on a desktop/laptop.)
- seniorivn 6y ago
  for most people app selection on ubuntu is big enough to never need anything more only professional/rare software sometimes has no support/suitable alternative
oji0hub 6y ago
- Can I install my "favourite program" on Linux? Well sure, it's supported on X, Y and Z! - Oh but I'm on distro A. Oh sorry, that's not supported. But here's a post by some guy on some forum who says he made it work by doing a bunch of complicated things no one understands.
- Macha 6y ago
  We're talking about Ubuntu. Distro X is always Ubuntu. Y and Z are usually picked from Debian, Red Hat, Fedora and Arch
- m4rtink 6y ago
  This is often no longer an issue thanks to Flatpak & Steam Proton built-in Windows emulation.
  - Shared404 6y ago
    In addition, there's a significant subset of people who's only program they use is a web browser. This is obviously quite doable with basically any distro.
    - m4rtink 6y ago
      Yes, while this has issues of its own (as long as the web services they are using are centralized and corporate controlled) I have observed the less technical users I have been helping with computer issues are totally happy as long as they sit in front of a computer with a web browser, where they can log in to their online accounts and get going. Some might want a full mail client and possibly a printer configured and that's about it.