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...'his company didn't think like a traditional medical institution. "We're engineers, we're scientists, computer scientists, we're cybersecurity nerds. We thin

...'his company didn't think like a traditional medical institution. "We're engineers, we're scientists, computer scientists, we're cybersecurity nerds. We think a little differently than people in health care do." "We took the entire model and just threw it out the window," Doroshin added. "We said to hell with all of that. We're going to completely build on a new model...' These kinds of statements from founders should always be a red flag. Dig deep, if you hear some variant of domain experts are hidebound and dogmatic. The parable of Chesterton's Fence[1] applies. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Chesterton's_fence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Chesterton's_...

oji0hub 6y ago
From the wiki: "Chesterton's fence is the principle that reforms should not be made until the reasoning behind the existing state of affairs is understood." Ok great. "The quotation is from Chesterton's 1929 book, The Thing: Why I am a Catholic" So, Catholicism?
- esja 6y ago
  What do you mean?
  - nytgop77 6y ago
    Flavor of ad hominem attack I guess.
    - oji0hub 6y ago
      For starters that would require actually mentioning the person...
- birdsbirdsbirds 6y ago
  Well, do they abide to Chesterton's fence by themselves? [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filioque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filioque
- notahacker 6y ago
  I mean, yes, it was part of Chesterton's defence of Catholicism,; more specifically it was the opening to his defence of the traditional nuclear family. But it's recognised more widely for espousing a (or the) basic principle of conservatism: don't try to fix things until you know if they're actually broken or not
melomal 6y ago
Smells like Theranos 2.0 to me. The issue with tech people is that they are so far outside of the real-world thought process and feelings. Full of grandiose ideas that fall short of delivering on the expectation and PR hype.
- zemvpferreira 6y ago
  You are right of course but I object to a 22 year old psychology student being characterized as a tech person. At best he's a Musk imitator. The problem isn't with tech people, it's with the sleazeballs using us for cover.
  - o-__-o 6y ago
    Been in tech since the 90s.. AlwaysHasBeen.jpg
  - 2muchcoffeeman 6y ago
    I can’t believe your system allows for something like this to happen. A private organisation run by non-doctors and non-nurses allowed to administer vaccines? WTF?
    - Melting_Harps 6y ago
      > A private organisation run by non-doctors and non-nurses allowed to administer vaccines? WTF? Agreed, in part, but if you only knew what a clusterfuck the underlying system is even with incredibly expensive employer based medical insurance was you'd probably be more open to seeing things like this take palce. And before you start with 'but in my country...' just know I've lived in countries with socialized medicine, where having to wait months for appointments to see a specialist is the norm, years for a surgery is nearly guaranteed and even needing a Dr's RX for aspirin (Germany!) is needed which is equally absurd to me as I got injured and ended up just drinking vodka to endure the pain instead of just having something available that is OTC in most countries. None of these systems are what I would call 'good,' and are all in need of massive reform. And while this does have a lot of sensationalism behind it that makes it look bad, I say just look at my earlier post and just focus at the results and what comparable rollout efforts look like before condemning them entirely. The US is an experiment, and one that has been failing most people at large for several decades now because of entrenched bureaucratic power deterring or outright denying these kind of accelerated forms of disruption to their monopolies and business models. I now see COVID as an opportunity as much as I see it as catastrophic shock to the system now.
nemoniac 6y ago
Reminded of this New Yorker cartoon... https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a20630 https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a20630
sys_64738 6y ago
The worst thing a software developer can do is take the existing design and start from scratch, which sounds like this. You usually invent something with its own set of problems. What you should do is analyze what’s wrong with the current model then make incremental changes to resolve. Thinks SSADM.

oji0hub 6y ago

From the wiki: "Chesterton's fence is the principle that reforms should not be made until the reasoning behind the existing state of affairs is understood." Ok great. "The quotation is from Chesterton's 1929 book, The Thing: Why I am a Catholic" So, Catholicism?

esja 6y ago
What do you mean?
- nytgop77 6y ago
  Flavor of ad hominem attack I guess.
  - oji0hub 6y ago
    For starters that would require actually mentioning the person...
birdsbirdsbirds 6y ago
Well, do they abide to Chesterton's fence by themselves? [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filioque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filioque
notahacker 6y ago
I mean, yes, it was part of Chesterton's defence of Catholicism,; more specifically it was the opening to his defence of the traditional nuclear family. But it's recognised more widely for espousing a (or the) basic principle of conservatism: don't try to fix things until you know if they're actually broken or not

melomal 6y ago

Smells like Theranos 2.0 to me. The issue with tech people is that they are so far outside of the real-world thought process and feelings. Full of grandiose ideas that fall short of delivering on the expectation and PR hype.

zemvpferreira 6y ago
You are right of course but I object to a 22 year old psychology student being characterized as a tech person. At best he's a Musk imitator. The problem isn't with tech people, it's with the sleazeballs using us for cover.
- o-__-o 6y ago
  Been in tech since the 90s.. AlwaysHasBeen.jpg
- 2muchcoffeeman 6y ago
  I can’t believe your system allows for something like this to happen. A private organisation run by non-doctors and non-nurses allowed to administer vaccines? WTF?
  - Melting_Harps 6y ago
    > A private organisation run by non-doctors and non-nurses allowed to administer vaccines? WTF? Agreed, in part, but if you only knew what a clusterfuck the underlying system is even with incredibly expensive employer based medical insurance was you'd probably be more open to seeing things like this take palce. And before you start with 'but in my country...' just know I've lived in countries with socialized medicine, where having to wait months for appointments to see a specialist is the norm, years for a surgery is nearly guaranteed and even needing a Dr's RX for aspirin (Germany!) is needed which is equally absurd to me as I got injured and ended up just drinking vodka to endure the pain instead of just having something available that is OTC in most countries. None of these systems are what I would call 'good,' and are all in need of massive reform. And while this does have a lot of sensationalism behind it that makes it look bad, I say just look at my earlier post and just focus at the results and what comparable rollout efforts look like before condemning them entirely. The US is an experiment, and one that has been failing most people at large for several decades now because of entrenched bureaucratic power deterring or outright denying these kind of accelerated forms of disruption to their monopolies and business models. I now see COVID as an opportunity as much as I see it as catastrophic shock to the system now.

nemoniac 6y ago

Reminded of this New Yorker cartoon... https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a20630 https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a20630

sys_64738 6y ago

The worst thing a software developer can do is take the existing design and start from scratch, which sounds like this. You usually invent something with its own set of problems. What you should do is analyze what’s wrong with the current model then make incremental changes to resolve. Thinks SSADM.